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Plymouth vs Birmingham : Championship : 16/05/2023


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5 minutes ago, Bellers101 said:

Didn't see that one coming. Well done Birmingham!

I watched Poole there last week so I could! Starke struggling atm and they can't really carry anyone in top 5 the way the team is built. 

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25 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

3 points from r/r..strange choice given you'd imagine 7 clubs to choose from. Plymouth seem to be in same position as Edinburgh, need significant changes but not sure what can do with/ if riders available 

Dan T would fit for Starke I think if doing a straight swap. But I don't know how good he is at Plymouth. 

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Not from me Plymouth as a team were pathetic your robbing the paying public running r/r like that there were some exceptions in worrall barker and gilkes but the rest garbage get in the playoffs your having a laugh atmosphere flat as a pancake,never ahead once in the meeting cmon even the most diehard fan can’t condone this,if there isn’t team changes before Poole in a few weeks god knows what the atmosphere will be like I’ve never left the colesium so miserable.oh and well done Birmingham.

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I’m expecting the few heads in the clouds fans on here to say it will get better get real it won’t with the riders we have at the moment the three I mentioned before can only do so much I feel for worrall he rides for a crap team in the league above as well and we are lucky to have him otherwise it could have been total carnage.

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19 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Dan T would fit for Starke I think if doing a straight swap. But I don't know how good he is at Plymouth. 

The problem with Dan Thompson is that his average is built on riding 1 track well. Managed 4 points for Leicester at Plymouth last season.

 

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10 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Dan T would fit for Starke I think if doing a straight swap. But I don't know how good he is at Plymouth. 

Does he ride in Poland U24? I assume kemp be no go for that reason. Starkey and turner for batch and another 2 pointer? Getting nothing from reserve anyway. Like I said difficult to work out best way forward, might need to drop someone doesn't deserve it to balance the side out. 

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4 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Does he ride in Poland U24? I assume kemp be no go for that reason. Starkey and turner for batch and another 2 pointer? Getting nothing from reserve anyway. Like I said difficult to work out best way forward, might need to drop someone doesn't deserve it to balance the side out. 

I know Drew rides for a senior team in Poland at the weekend (same one as Dougy I think) and has been doing well apart from last Sunday when he got 2. Before that I think I have seen scores of 8 ish.So not sure if that rules him out of U24s or he can do both? Not sure if Dan does U24s. 

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7 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Turner protected, Trigger protected, Barker walks on water. The core of the Plymouth team is rotten and even with some track experts the morale will stay low. Mark Phillips defiance is both admiral and foolhardy. 

Understand the Ben and Ben comments but what makes turner a protected rider

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11 minutes ago, Sings4Speedway said:

Turner protected, Trigger protected, Barker walks on water. The core of the Plymouth team is rotten and even with some track experts the morale will stay low. Mark Phillips defiance is both admiral and foolhardy. 

How can you say Ben Barker is protected ? If his scores were poor could understand but I’d argue he’s been our best rider so far this season and wouldn’t be suprised if he gets to number one at some point.

Ben Trigger is a 2 point rider and the most logical one. Gary may always seems to build a team with a 2 pointer in the team. They are not expected to score any points. 
 

The issue we have is not that trigger scores 1 point it’s the fact we carry two riders with a combined average of nearly 10. 
 

worrall, howarth, Barker and gilkes all pulling there weight. Trigger is doing as and what is expected.

Turner and Starke are not living up to what they can and that’s the issue. There’s no need to panic only 2 league matches in, very easy to be reactive

If starke and   Turner are replaced it would leave 9.32 and the issue potentially is that there are no riders that fit this points.

 

Gary and mark know what’s what and what is needed.

 

On top of the above speedway is not won or lost in the first few weeks. 

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Do you really  believe that deep down are you happy with what your seeing I’m so passionate about my team and that’s why I’m so disappointed 2 home defeats on the trot out of 2 cup competitions by mid May, only the league left to play for and we get beat at home by the team who everyone predicted to be the worst team in the league and your not worried I’m sure mark and Garry will do the best they can they can’t ride the bikes for them but surely they must be very concerned because your home meetings are the ones where you need to please your paying public do you really at the moment see us getting any aggregate bonus points.

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