dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 We've got super Ritchie Hawkins He knows exactly what we need Doyley out in front Beating every c..t Witches gonna win the f...£ing league 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 No Klindt on Thursday either as he has a rearranged Polish meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, JackPells said: No Klindt on Thursday either as he has a rearranged Polish meeting. Now that the Poles have started using Thursdays as one of their nights on several occasions this season already, they won't mind what nights we run on with our one big league next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 59 minutes ago, JackPells said: No Klindt on Thursday either as he has a rearranged Polish meeting. It's becoming a bit of a joke already.The Poles taking the piss as expected. K.Howarth in for Pickering on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Basically in this country, before Poland starts, you get a couple of weeks where two teams have 14 riders on show belonging to them... When Poland starts, then forget it.. It cannot be too far from round 80% of meetings running with guests from April onwards... You simply cannot sell a sport like that to major sponsors, nor expect punters to follow it and take it seriously... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, tellboy said: It's becoming a bit of a joke already.The Poles taking the piss as expected. K.Howarth in for Pickering on Monday. We signed up to it unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, mikebv said: Basically in this country, before Poland starts, you get a couple of weeks where two teams have 14 riders on show belonging to them... When Poland starts, then forget it.. It cannot be too far from round 80% of meetings running with guests from April onwards... You simply cannot sell a sport like that to major sponsors, nor expect punters to follow it and take it seriously... ....and yet attendances are reportedly up at several tracks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 But up from when? As they certainly ain't up from 10 years ago or 20 or 30. Prob up from the covid years when people stayed home 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 24 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: ....and yet attendances are reportedly up at several tracks! That's great and we all hope it lasts but let's see what the trend is over the whole season. Early season optimism will evaporate for many teams and as @mikebv says once guests really kick in it will make it difficult for many to take it seriously and keep going. Guests certainly put me off going, my team are likely to have two this Thursday and that takes the shine off for me personally. I wish I could switch off the part of me that cares about the integrity of British speedway and just go and watch my team and the racing regardless but I can't. I want my clubs seven riders to race for my team and not somewhere else, or be worrying about them getting injured racing in the Championship. Doubling up and guests have got ridiculously out of hand and the sport is in a mess, it needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom and fresh governance who can run it properly and rebuild it into something that patrons and sponsors can take seriously. We need lots of clubs to be well supported and financially sound, not just a few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: ....and yet attendances are reportedly up at several tracks! I was taught a very salient point approx 25 years ago when I got to run my own store, and excitedly told my boss after 12 months that since I had been there, sales had risen by 8%... "Aye lad, but an 8% increase in f*#k all, is still f*#k all"...... A wise man indeed.. With Emil and Dan riding, (and Nicki for 5 seconds), you would think crowds would have to be up, or heaven help us... One due to the huge novelty value, and two down to the low like for like starting points for crowds at so many tracks.. I can guarantee that as the novelty value wears off, and riders start to continually miss meetings due to FIM and Polish meetings on Mondays and Thursdays, then crowds will start to drop off.. Just like crowds historically have done down the years, as "the stars" became so frequently "elsewhere" on nights that UK Speedway were happy to still run meetings on without them... Instead, replacing them with inferior riders from their competitors, which ultimately led to a mass exodus of punters... Noticable how the FIM and Poland have now taken over Mondays and Thursday's. The nights that were, (and Monday still is), priority race nights for the UK, however now, for both nights, they get considered secondary... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 hours ago, mikebv said: I was taught a very salient point approx 25 years ago when I got to run my own store, and excitedly told my boss after 12 months that since I had been there, sales had risen by 8%... "Aye lad, but an 8% increase in f*#k all, is still f*#k all"...... A wise man indeed.. With Emil and Dan riding, (and Nicki for 5 seconds), you would think crowds would have to be up, or heaven help us... One due to the huge novelty value, and two down to the low like for like starting points for crowds at so many tracks.. I can guarantee that as the novelty value wears off, and riders start to continually miss meetings due to FIM and Polish meetings on Mondays and Thursdays, then crowds will start to drop off.. Just like crowds historically have done down the years, as "the stars" became so frequently "elsewhere" on nights that UK Speedway were happy to still run meetings on without them... Instead, replacing them with inferior riders from their competitors, which ultimately led to a mass exodus of punters... Noticable how the FIM and Poland have now taken over Mondays and Thursday's. The nights that were, (and Monday still is), priority race nights for the UK, however now, for both nights, they get considered secondary... I do realise this is a Premiership thread but as far as attendances being up I was referring to the Championship as well, where there aren't any of the so-called stars but clubs seem to be getting it more right than wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: We signed up to it unfortunately. I know we did,but did any of us expect it to be utilised so much so early in the season.I didn't myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: That's great and we all hope it lasts but let's see what the trend is over the whole season. Early season optimism will evaporate for many teams and as @mikebv says once guests really kick in it will make it difficult for many to take it seriously and keep going. Guests certainly put me off going, my team are likely to have two this Thursday and that takes the shine off for me personally. I wish I could switch off the part of me that cares about the integrity of British speedway and just go and watch my team and the racing regardless but I can't. I want my clubs seven riders to race for my team and not somewhere else, or be worrying about them getting injured racing in the Championship. Doubling up and guests have got ridiculously out of hand and the sport is in a mess, it needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom and fresh governance who can run it properly and rebuild it into something that patrons and sponsors can take seriously. We need lots of clubs to be well supported and financially sound, not just a few. But would you be willing to pay double the admission fee so these riders can afford to give up one of their teams? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 So is it 2pm start tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluTiger Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Baldyman said: So is it 2pm start tomorrow? It's 2.30... https://twitter.com/ipswichspeedway/status/1652705342436831234?s=20 Edited April 30, 2023 by BluPanther 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 hour ago, tellboy said: I know we did,but did any of us expect it to be utilised so much so early in the season.I didn't myself. Absolutely - I think it was thought it would be a last resort if needed rather than the seemingly go to norm so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Tempted to pop along tomorrow. Hopefully forecast improves slightly..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Skidder1 said: ....and yet attendances are reportedly up at several tracks! Up from what? 500 to 510 is up. Until they start publishing attendances, it's all just stories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, tellboy said: I know we did,but did any of us expect it to be utilised so much so early in the season.I didn't myself. Poland has also had rain ... Edited May 1, 2023 by Roger Jacobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 6:23 PM, Daniel Smith said: Of course it'll be packed, a bank holday meeting. Just a shame there's no return leg like the old days. Like I said though, it'll be embarrassing if you don't win by 20 Foxhall was always the return leg - it was Compost Corner in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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