tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Don't be silly, they could possibly go the whole season without losing a match in the Champ! Don't think they would personally,not at the moment anyway.The 3 that don't ride the Championship,Jakobsen,Klindt and KK are easily beatable by Championship riders,that has been proven already rhis season.You would not believe how far off they pace they have been,KK accepted in a few races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Alex Brady not holding back in his post meeting comments which is something at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimmo Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 4:44 PM, Mimmo said: Lets wait and see what Simon scores first. He's seldom let the club down when riding in the reserve berth, and certainly never gives up, even when he's last.. So, Simon scored more points than Nicolai Klindt, Jason Edwards and David Bellego(Sheffield). He scored as many points as Michael Palm Toft & Frederik Jakobsen and if you included bonus points, he was better than those two. So, of the 14-riders on display, he was better than a third of them. I never make comments on here with regarding the rights and wrongs of what managements are doing at any club, but the comments I'm reading about Messrs Chapman, Allitt & Brady on both the King's Lynn & Peterborough sites, are in my opinion, cause to make them walk away, hence the closure of both clubs. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Of course everyone has the right of freedom of speech, but don't you think it would be better to be done in a more productive way, rather than continually slagging people off that are putting a lot of money into keeping the sport alive at those two venues. Do you really, with hand on heart, want to risk losing the sport you love, forever, because that's what would happen, then your only choice of watching the sport without travelling to the Midlands and beyond, would be Ipswich & Mildenhall? Just for this one time only, do I think the team that has been put together at KIng's Lynn is good, then no I don't. Did they have enough money to put better teams out, if I include Peterborough, only they know that, so I can't be critical on that point. Do I have the answers to solving the obvious problems, no I don't thankfully, as I'm not putting thousands of pounds into clubs in to trying to entertain us all. I know that you will probably start slagging me off now, but BRING IT ON, because it seems that all the British Speedway Forum is designed to these days, is look at negatives instead of praising positives. I'll close my posting by saying, please continue supporting your respect clubs, and show some respect towards those who run them. Okay, so fire away if you want, but I will not react to any of them. Enjoy your sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: On paper this Lynn team should be competitive, a lack of a number one shouldn't be an issue if you've got 6 riders who can score 7 points each week! Not sure why they are doing so badly? Obviously missing a strong reserve today, but should still be doing better! Palm Toft and Klindt are the main issues at the moment. I thought this side would of done decent and surprise a few pre season but that meant these two scoring as they had in previous seasons - which they haven’t got close yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mimmo said: So, Simon scored more points than Nicolai Klindt, Jason Edwards and David Bellego(Sheffield). He scored as many points as Michael Palm Toft & Frederik Jakobsen and if you included bonus points, he was better than those two. So, of the 14-riders on display, he was better than a third of them. I never make comments on here with regarding the rights and wrongs of what managements are doing at any club, but the comments I'm reading about Messrs Chapman, Allitt & Brady on both the King's Lynn & Peterborough sites, are in my opinion, cause to make them walk away, hence the closure of both clubs. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Of course everyone has the right of freedom of speech, but don't you think it would be better to be done in a more productive way, rather than continually slagging people off that are putting a lot of money into keeping the sport alive at those two venues. Do you really, with hand on heart, want to risk losing the sport you love, forever, because that's what would happen, then your only choice of watching the sport without travelling to the Midlands and beyond, would be Ipswich & Mildenhall? Just for this one time only, do I think the team that has been put together at KIng's Lynn is good, then no I don't. Did they have enough money to put better teams out, if I include Peterborough, only they know that, so I can't be critical on that point. Do I have the answers to solving the obvious problems, no I don't thankfully, as I'm not putting thousands of pounds into clubs in to trying to entertain us all. I know that you will probably start slagging me off now, but BRING IT ON, because it seems that all the British Speedway Forum is designed to these days, is look at negatives instead of praising positives. I'll close my posting by saying, please continue supporting your respect clubs, and show some respect towards those who run them. Okay, so fire away if you want, but I will not react to any of them. Enjoy your sport. They need to be accountable, speedway for the sake of it isn't for me. Neither team is even competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKM91 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Alex Brady not holding back in his post meeting comments which is something at least. What did Alex say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 40 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: What did Alex say? There's a flavour of it here http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.31328 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKM91 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: There's a flavour of it here http://www.kingslynn-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.31328 Cheers mate, strong but fair words from the boss! Klindt needs to go I'm afraid, it's not just him but he needs to be looked at first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lynnfan91 said: Cheers mate, strong but fair words from the boss! Klindt needs to go I'm afraid, it's not just him but he needs to be looked at first Thing is he said he wants to see a reaction.To me he is staying with the same 7 for the time being.This could be a very long season,but also a usual short one for Lynn. Klindt has been awful and possibly needs to go before his average drops to a 7 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mimmo said: So, Simon scored more points than Nicolai Klindt, Jason Edwards and David Bellego(Sheffield). He scored as many points as Michael Palm Toft & Frederik Jakobsen and if you included bonus points, he was better than those two. So, of the 14-riders on display, he was better than a third of them. I never make comments on here with regarding the rights and wrongs of what managements are doing at any club, but the comments I'm reading about Messrs Chapman, Allitt & Brady on both the King's Lynn & Peterborough sites, are in my opinion, cause to make them walk away, hence the closure of both clubs. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Of course everyone has the right of freedom of speech, but don't you think it would be better to be done in a more productive way, rather than continually slagging people off that are putting a lot of money into keeping the sport alive at those two venues. Do you really, with hand on heart, want to risk losing the sport you love, forever, because that's what would happen, then your only choice of watching the sport without travelling to the Midlands and beyond, would be Ipswich & Mildenhall? Just for this one time only, do I think the team that has been put together at KIng's Lynn is good, then no I don't. Did they have enough money to put better teams out, if I include Peterborough, only they know that, so I can't be critical on that point. Do I have the answers to solving the obvious problems, no I don't thankfully, as I'm not putting thousands of pounds into clubs in to trying to entertain us all. I know that you will probably start slagging me off now, but BRING IT ON, because it seems that all the British Speedway Forum is designed to these days, is look at negatives instead of praising positives. I'll close my posting by saying, please continue supporting your respect clubs, and show some respect towards those who run them. Okay, so fire away if you want, but I will not react to any of them. Enjoy your sport. Yes Simon did score more than a few,but would he have scored more than another possible replacement ie Nicholls,Worrall.We won't know for sure but the odds are in favour of the latter. I think Allitt,Brady and Buster are bigger than letting a few comments on here to make them walk away and close down. What will make it close down is having a team like we currently have.The crowd was awful last night,probably the worse I have seen for an early season meeting.People will vote with their feet and ultimately that would cost Lynn dearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: That's not much of a battle for me. I'll probably go to see Emil next time but another heavy defeat will make my mind up for the next one. It took me 4 seasons to have the camels back broken. You've been in self negotiations for years too. It's the hardest thing to walk away from what you love but when you know it's time, it's time. Still miss it massively. I cannot & will not go watch another team but also cannot justify travel to Lynn under the current management team. £22 for bottom 2 season in season out is excessive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: It took me 4 seasons to have the camels back broken. You've been in self negotiations for years too. It's the hardest thing to walk away from what you love but when you know it's time, it's time. Still miss it massively. I cannot & will not go watch another team but also cannot justify travel to Lynn under the current management team. £22 for bottom 2 season in season out is excessive. For me it's a massive effort to finish work, get home, shower and eat in time to get to Lynn for 7:45. If its going to be garbage for 22 quid I'm going to struggle to bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Mimmo said: So, Simon scored more points than Nicolai Klindt, Jason Edwards and David Bellego(Sheffield). He scored as many points as Michael Palm Toft & Frederik Jakobsen and if you included bonus points, he was better than those two. So, of the 14-riders on display, he was better than a third of them. I never make comments on here with regarding the rights and wrongs of what managements are doing at any club, but the comments I'm reading about Messrs Chapman, Allitt & Brady on both the King's Lynn & Peterborough sites, are in my opinion, cause to make them walk away, hence the closure of both clubs. DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT? Of course everyone has the right of freedom of speech, but don't you think it would be better to be done in a more productive way, rather than continually slagging people off that are putting a lot of money into keeping the sport alive at those two venues. Do you really, with hand on heart, want to risk losing the sport you love, forever, because that's what would happen, then your only choice of watching the sport without travelling to the Midlands and beyond, would be Ipswich & Mildenhall? Just for this one time only, do I think the team that has been put together at KIng's Lynn is good, then no I don't. Did they have enough money to put better teams out, if I include Peterborough, only they know that, so I can't be critical on that point. Do I have the answers to solving the obvious problems, no I don't thankfully, as I'm not putting thousands of pounds into clubs in to trying to entertain us all. I know that you will probably start slagging me off now, but BRING IT ON, because it seems that all the British Speedway Forum is designed to these days, is look at negatives instead of praising positives. I'll close my posting by saying, please continue supporting your respect clubs, and show some respect towards those who run them. Okay, so fire away if you want, but I will not react to any of them. Enjoy your sport. So you'd prefer disgruntled fans to just put up & shut up? When they've had enough, walk away silently? Come on Mimmo. I'd always spoken face to face with JC when he was there & Buster. They actually listened. Whether they did anything or not didn't matter, they listened. I felt wanted. When Wagstaff was in charge he made the fans feel wanted, easy to talk to about anything, it could be argued we were even worse than now back then. Anyone tried speaking with Allitt about their unhappiness yet? He does not (or didn't then anyway) take negativity well at all. Told me I have know idea what I'm talking about (a few expletives) & turned on his heels. He never spoke to me again. Point is, when you try to show your discontent face to face & they disrespect you as a life long fan only so much can be taken. It does look like, with the teams being put out year on year, Allitt still doesn't get it. Personally, Allitt is the biggest problem for King's Lynn (& Peterborough) but it all falls back on Buster because he employs this guy. It may be unfortunate for you Mimmo that everyone's unhappiness is exhausted on a forum (a social media) but that's the modern world. Everyone now has a voice. Apart from trolls, most people are very constructive but it's not being listened to at all. That could be said for every Premiership club to be honest. As horrible as it can get on here at times, every single promoter & manager should be reading this forum. There 'head in the sand' mentality is not working for this sport what so ever. Sheffield & Ipswich are very fortunate they have a 'sugar daddy' sponsor at the moment. In actual fact, we had that sponsor ourselves, wonder why they left us?!?!? Belle Vue are sticking in there competitively. It's not a coincidence King's Lynn & Peterborough are the 2 worst run Premiership clubs mate. Mimmo, this sport is dying, fans should not be silenced, they have to be allowed to demand change in anyway they see fit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 frustrated team managers who've had enough already and we're not even into May yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelvinht Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 opening 5-1's for Sheffield killed this tie for Kings Lynn so unsurprisingly heads dropped, particularly MPT who clearly didn't appear to like the track all evening. Sheffield looked very professional and finished the job. Really not sure what to do with this team, we badly need a no.1 who can be relied upon to score points - but realistically, who is out there that would be willing to ride for us. That will take pressure off the rest of the team. Not sure who you would replace though - but averages must be coming down nicely ready for 1st of May.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, kelvinht said: 2 opening 5-1's for Sheffield killed this tie for Kings Lynn so unsurprisingly heads dropped, particularly MPT who clearly didn't appear to like the track all evening. Sheffield looked very professional and finished the job. Really not sure what to do with this team, we badly need a no.1 who can be relied upon to score points - but realistically, who is out there that would be willing to ride for us. That will take pressure off the rest of the team. Not sure who you would replace though - but averages must be coming down nicely ready for 1st of May.... The averages are coming down,but with Jakobsens going up and KK yet to get a new one the team averages goes above the total team points limit.So if you replace one rider on a like for like basis you are going to have a lesser average to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Personally I'd prefer them to work with the present incumbents and get them going rather than make changes yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Personally I'd prefer them to work with the present incumbents and get them going rather than make changes yet. The even bigger question is who is willing to sign for the Stars ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Haza said: The even bigger question is who is willing to sign for the Stars ? Or for anybody in the UK for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Personally I'd prefer them to work with the present incumbents and get them going rather than make changes yet. But the longer they stick with a losing team,more and more of the crowd will get peed off and will probably vote with their feet.Even you did say about watching Emil next time but another heavy defeat will make your mind up for the next one.So changes need to be imminent imo,unless things change on track against Leicester and Ipswich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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