Bellers101 Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, Biffa said: While Birmingham let Redcar use Sedgman & Scunthorpe use Proctor in the same match Yes, it's like a big circus with no credibility! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 22, 2023 Report Share Posted April 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Bellers101 said: Yes, it's like a big circus with no credibility! Pity the people running the Sport don’t recognise that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Bellers101 said: So in their BSN mini league Redcar allow probably their main rival for qualification Scunthorpe to use one of their riders Jason Edwards as a guest. Only in speedway. The sport has no credibility! So what's the alternative, a ndl 2 pointer dropped in and hope. It's OK complaining about the guest system but, without a alternative what do you suggest ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Petecc said: So what's the alternative, a ndl 2 pointer dropped in and hope. It's OK complaining about the guest system but, without a alternative what do you suggest ? A guest from one of the other groups? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 On 4/22/2023 at 10:36 AM, Bellers101 said: So in their BSN mini league Redcar allow probably their main rival for qualification Scunthorpe to use one of their riders Jason Edwards as a guest. Only in speedway. The sport has no credibility! 7 hours ago, Petecc said: So what's the alternative, a ndl 2 pointer dropped in and hope. It's OK complaining about the guest system but, without a alternative what do you suggest ? A very simple alternative is you can't guest against a team in your own group, there would still be up to 6 clubs to choose guests from (depending on fixtures). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted April 23, 2023 Report Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Petecc said: So what's the alternative, a ndl 2 pointer dropped in and hope. It's OK complaining about the guest system but, without a alternative what do you suggest ? Guests only from another group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 6:38 PM, Bellers101 said: Guests only from another group. Sorry, but its not that simple. With Edinburgh entertaining Glasgow, that night and Poole entertaining Oxford, it would come down to Berwick and Plymouth, to choose from. Supposing they had suitably averaged riders and they were available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Sorry, but it’s only what the play off system is using. Can only have a guest from the clubs that aren’t involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 As soon as they introduce a new rule that only permits a guest for your No.1, the better. A second string can be covered by R/R and there are plenty of reserves out there NDL etc..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 On 4/23/2023 at 6:38 PM, Bellers101 said: Guests only from another group. 8 hours ago, sidewinder said: Sorry, but its not that simple. With Edinburgh entertaining Glasgow, that night and Poole entertaining Oxford, it would come down to Berwick and Plymouth, to choose from. Supposing they had suitably averaged riders and they were available. Maybe it shouldn't be simple? Surely giving the sport more credibility is more important than making it "simple" to find a guest? Might even encourage clubs to look for replacements than reply on guests? Using Edinburgh as an example, I wouldn't even look for a replacement for Pickering, no matter how long he is out for, with his average there are plenty of available heat leaders to guest for him! Nothing to do with lack of available replacements - I think guests would be stronger, so why not use them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biffa Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 Redcar using the guest facility this week for Erik Riss. In comes Richard Lawson for 3 meetings Away v Birmingham Home v Scunthorpe Away v Berwick KOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 13 hours ago, sidewinder said: Sorry, but its not that simple. With Edinburgh entertaining Glasgow, that night and Poole entertaining Oxford, it would come down to Berwick and Plymouth, to choose from. Supposing they had suitably averaged riders and they were available. If there aren't any riders available use R/R. I won't be paying to watch any BSN Mickey Mouse Cup trophy meetings this year partly due to this farcical situation and I'm not the only one. Money lost to the sport I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellers101 Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Maybe it shouldn't be simple? Surely giving the sport more credibility is more important than making it "simple" to find a guest? Might even encourage clubs to look for replacements than reply on guests? Using Edinburgh as an example, I wouldn't even look for a replacement for Pickering, no matter how long he is out for, with his average there are plenty of available heat leaders to guest for him! Nothing to do with lack of available replacements - I think guests would be stronger, so why not use them? Agreed British speedway always take the easy option rather than building credibility. Why go to the effort of signing an injury replacement when you can just borrow another teams rider. What a sport! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted April 25, 2023 Report Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Biffa said: Redcar using the guest facility this week for Erik Riss. In comes Richard Lawson for 3 meetings Away v Birmingham Home v Scunthorpe Away v Berwick KOC Great guest, could be 3 wins for the Bears! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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