crescent girl Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 It seems some riders have been a bit naughty, using a special 'blue' methanol additive (created for drag racing) to their fuel. After some 'interesting' performances in early meetings, the SCB have issued the following: It has been reported to the SCB that some riders have been adding additives to their methanol.All riders are reminded that only "Pure Methanol" is allowed with no additives as per SCB Regulation 04.2.9Any riders found to be using additives will be subject to an enquiry and the possibility of disciplinary action.(Riders riding 125cc/150cc have the option of Pure Methanol or Unleaded Petrol) This is clearly being taken seriously, as there was after-race fuel tests being carried out on Good Friday at one track, at least........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 Maybe KK at Kings Lynn is using it …. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 ...reminds one of the days when some riders added nitro to their fuel and was quite common apparently before it was made illegal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 5 hours ago, stevehone said: Maybe KK at Kings Lynn is using it …. more likely red diesel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 10:39 PM, crescent girl said: It seems some riders have been a bit naughty, using a special 'blue' methanol additive (created for drag racing) to their fuel. After some 'interesting' performances in early meetings, the SCB have issued the following: It has been reported to the SCB that some riders have been adding additives to their methanol.All riders are reminded that only "Pure Methanol" is allowed with no additives as per SCB Regulation 04.2.9Any riders found to be using additives will be subject to an enquiry and the possibility of disciplinary action.(Riders riding 125cc/150cc have the option of Pure Methanol or Unleaded Petrol) This is clearly being taken seriously, as there was after-race fuel tests being carried out on Good Friday at one track, at least........... Which track(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 And of course when poole riders were doctoring their tyres with a softening agent,allegedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortythirtyeight Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 10:39 PM, crescent girl said: It seems some riders have been a bit naughty, using a special 'blue' methanol additive (created for drag racing) to their fuel. After some 'interesting' performances in early meetings, the SCB have issued the following: It has been reported to the SCB that some riders have been adding additives to their methanol.All riders are reminded that only "Pure Methanol" is allowed with no additives as per SCB Regulation 04.2.9Any riders found to be using additives will be subject to an enquiry and the possibility of disciplinary action.(Riders riding 125cc/150cc have the option of Pure Methanol or Unleaded Petrol) This is clearly being taken seriously, as there was after-race fuel tests being carried out on Good Friday at one track, at least........... Utter rubbish. There is no such thing as ‘ blue methanol’, the statement referred to ‘additives’ that are used by some 125cc riders which is perfectly legal in Europe and in any other motorsport and which was seen being used at the Ben Fund meeting and was openly used by 2 or three competitors. They have now been advised not to use it in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, poole keith said: And of course when poole riders were doctoring their tyres with a softening agent,allegedly It was not contained to Poole riders. It was quite widespread. The tyres were softened with a substance that was used in Go Kart racing to soften their tyres. This is why fitting of tyres is now to be done at the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Utter rubbish. There is no such thing as ‘ blue methanol’, the statement referred to ‘additives’ that are used by some 125cc riders which is perfectly legal in Europe and in any other motorsport and which was seen being used at the Ben Fund meeting and was openly used by 2 or three competitors. They have now been advised not to use it in the UK. The post you quote doesn't say "blue methanol " it says a "blue" methanol additive, which i assume means an additive which besides any supposed benefits adds a blue hue to the fuel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 11 hours ago, poole keith said: And of course when poole riders were doctoring their tyres with a softening agent,allegedly ....I recall years ago when some riders were using a spray to soften their tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, steve roberts said: ....I recall years ago when some riders were using a spray to soften their tyres? I remember Jan Andersson used to use hair lacquer at the indoor Wembley events and not on his head Edited April 10, 2023 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, iainb said: I remember Jan Andersson used to use hair lacquer at the indoor Wembley events and not on his head Yes I remember that also! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 Just now, steve roberts said: Yes I remember that also! All above board I hasten to add... "because he's worth it" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Fortythirtyeight said: Utter rubbish. There is no such thing as ‘ blue methanol’, the statement referred to ‘additives’ that are used by some 125cc riders which is perfectly legal in Europe and in any other motorsport and which was seen being used at the Ben Fund meeting and was openly used by 2 or three competitors. They have now been advised not to use it in the UK. The terms "brown methanol", made from coal, "grey methanol", made from natural gas, "blue methanol", made from hydrogen and "green methanol" made from biomass or other "green" resources, refer to different methods of production, not the actual colour of the fuel. So there is such a thing as "blue methanol". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 41 minutes ago, Rich said: The terms "brown methanol", made from coal, "grey methanol", made from natural gas, "blue methanol", made from hydrogen and "green methanol" made from biomass or other "green" resources, refer to different methods of production, not the actual colour of the fuel. So there is such a thing as "blue methanol". Thanks, everyday is a schoolday i didnt realise there were so many types of methanol, which ones are allowed to be used, without the addition of additives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 10, 2023 Report Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Triple.H. said: Thanks, everyday is a schoolday i didnt realise there were so many types of methanol, which ones are allowed to be used, without the addition of additives. As far as I know, the end products are all the same, just each production method has a different environmental impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 11, 2023 Report Share Posted April 11, 2023 Watching Polish racing at weekend they had a methanol tank in the pits... Presumably so all riders use the same source? It used to happen over here didnt it? If so, why not just go back to this system? Elf n Safety? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 hours ago, mikebv said: Watching Polish racing at weekend they had a methanol tank in the pits... Presumably so all riders use the same source? It used to happen over here didnt it? If so, why not just go back to this system? Elf n Safety? We’re light years behind Poland in most things regarding the sport these days.IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 were behind europe in virtually everything these days (medical care,dental care ,road and rail,river and sea pollution energy storage and production,education,policing etc etc etc)its not just speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, poole keith said: were behind europe in virtually everything these days (medical care,dental care ,road and rail,river and sea pollution energy storage and production,education,policing etc etc etc)its not just speedway Went to a new optician the other day who was born and grew up in Pakistan but has been over here about 40 years. He said what's happening here reminds him of how things are back in Pakistan. Makes you think eh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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