Haza Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Not entirely unexpected but at least we scraped enough points to have a theoretical chance of the bonus point. Never great to go into a league match without any kind of practice or warm up meeting but it is what it is. Hope for better on Thursday at Owlerton. Definitely something to be said having an individual meeting as first meeting as basically a warm up meeting to iron out problems and get race fit to go in cold is crazy situation really and to be honest it short changed the public last night . Though KK did ride in a pairs meeting Sunday I believe in Poland . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Wolfie456 said: I wouldn't read to much into tonights result if a Lynn fan as for 10 heats they really looked ring rusty and short of practice and improved late in meeeting. Yeah....K.Lynn were poor ..few of there riders cant ride M.G ..but u can only beat whats in front of you ..easy win for wolves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 42 minutes ago, Haza said: Definitely something to be said having an individual meeting as first meeting as basically a warm up meeting to iron out problems and get race fit to go in cold is crazy situation really and to be honest it short changed the public last night . Though KK did ride in a pairs meeting Sunday I believe in Poland . He rode in a Pairs match on Sunday and didn’t get on much better there either. He’s also had a match at Bydgoszcz but both Bydgoszcz and Rzeszow are somewhat polar opposites to Mommore Green so don’t think they would have had much bearing. No reason to be alarmed just yet. Wolves are the type of team who will do well at home and get battered away against most sides. Kings Lynn’s real test comes around their own track, as Wolves is abit of an obscure one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Haza said: Definitely something to be said having an individual meeting as first meeting as basically a warm up meeting to iron out problems and get race fit to go in cold is crazy situation really and to be honest it short changed the public last night . Though KK did ride in a pairs meeting Sunday I believe in Poland . I think the rain has to take most of the blame, if it'd been a drier month then MPT and KK would have ridden in the original staging of the Peter Craven, Lynn would have had practice on P&P day and would have had a meeting last Thursday at home. I expect last night would have been closer with all those taking place but essentially you can almost write off Lynn's two visits to Wolves every year as we are traditionally so poor there, its a unique track which thankfully only accounts for two out of our 24 league matches so just have to forget that one and make sure we do better from now on. The other six away tracks should be much more suited to the Lynn team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Bagpuss said: I think the rain has to take most of the blame, if it'd been a drier month then MPT and KK would have ridden in the original staging of the Peter Craven, Lynn would have had practice on P&P day and would have had a meeting last Thursday at home. I expect last night would have been closer with all those taking place but essentially you can almost write off Lynn's two visits to Wolves every year as we are traditionally so poor there, its a unique track which thankfully only accounts for two out of our 24 league matches so just have to forget that one and make sure we do better from now on. The other six away tracks should be much more suited to the Lynn team. There are only 7 teams in the league so only 6 away tracks to visit so taking away M.G. there is only 5 more suited to yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 54 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: There are only 7 teams in the league so only 6 away tracks to visit so taking away M.G. there is only 5 more suited to yourselves. Quite right, forgive me. Should have read other six tracks or other five away tracks, was in two minds and made a pigs ear of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) Problem with KL is they won't have a No.1 all season, If KK isn't up for it then that'll be two riders struggling in the main body most weeks. The team is far too reliant on whoever rides at No.6 imo. Edited April 4, 2023 by TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 1:40 PM, Chris said: Nonsense. It's one of the worst aspects of the sport in this country & why it's not taken seriously. Poland won't go near guests as the league will lose all integrity. One rider missing from the top 5 & it should be R/R. Any missing reseve is replaced by a club junior. Poland have squads so an injured rider is easily covered, I think that’s a luxury we can’t afford at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: Poland have squads so an injured rider is easily covered, I think that’s a luxury we can’t afford at the moment Just have a fit for purpose RR facility.. A No1 missing then every rider can take his rides up to all riders taking no more than seven rides in total, meaning, for example, the two remaining HL's could take two rides each, their own four rides, and Ht 15.. For riders lower down the team the riders above and below could take two rides each if the manager wanted.. For a number 7 missing then a No8 comes in for two of his rides and the other reserve takes the other two.. Guests just destroy the sport from ever being taking seriously by media, sponsors and fans, hence Poland would never see them as a "necessary evil"... Not a good starting point to grow the sport when guests are so fundamentally wrong if you wish the sport to be considered relevant... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Just have a fit for purpose RR facility.. A No1 missing then every rider can take his rides up to all riders taking no more than seven rides in total, meaning, for example, the two remaining HL's could take two rides each, their own four rides, and Ht 15.. For riders lower down the team the riders above and below could take two rides each if the manager wanted.. For a number 7 missing then a No8 comes in for two of his rides and the other reserve takes the other two.. Guests just destroy the sport from ever being taking seriously by media, sponsors and fans, hence Poland would never see them as a "necessary evil"... Not a good starting point to grow the sport when guests are so fundamentally wrong if you wish the sport to be considered relevant... At least you seeing your own Team.Not a bad suggestion iMO.Unfortunatey Chris Harris would have to retire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: At least you seeing your own Team.Not a bad suggestion iMO.Unfortunatey Chris Harris would have to retire. There would have to be a caveat to the rule obviously... "The Bomber" it could be called .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 will be interesting to see how many bonus points Bomber gets this year to keep his average down and guest bookings up .. to be fair, i don't blame him, make the most of it while it's there, Tom Topinka used to do it at Kings Lynn and he was much in demand for a guest spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 11 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Poland have squads so an injured rider is easily covered, I think that’s a luxury we can’t afford at the moment Poland also use rider replacement for when any of their top 3 averaged riders are missing where anybody can then take a RR ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 1:40 PM, Chris said: Nonsense. It's one of the worst aspects of the sport in this country & why it's not taken seriously. Poland won't go near guests as the league will lose all integrity. One rider missing from the top 5 & it should be R/R. Any missing reseve is replaced by a club junior. Poland did use guests a couple of years ago in the Ekstraliga but taken from Liga 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourentee Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 On 4/3/2023 at 10:40 PM, Wolfie456 said: I wouldn't read to much into tonights result if a Lynn fan as for 10 heats they really looked ring rusty and short of practice and improved late in meeeting. I take the point in general, but Lynn didn't improve in the final five races, Palm Toft did! He and Jakobsen took seven of the 10 rides and scored all bar one of the points. Bit puzzled by Lynn, to be honest. Klindt looked blindingly quick in his second ride, but nowhere in the other two. Palm Toft picked up and should be a solid scorer; Jakobsen is clearly a gem and Edwards, after a strong end to last season and a fine opening night at Redcar, looks like a rider on the up. Jorgensen should be OK and I really rate Pickering, who gives his absolute all but just doesn't get Monmore. That just leaves Kasprzak, who has always struck me as a "how goes the first ride, goes the night" kind of confidence rider. He was, and it genuinely pains me to say this, woeful on Monday. Such a shame to see in a rider of his pedigree. At this stage of his career no-one expects the form of his world No.2 days, but I hope he can rediscover some semblance of his ability. All that being said, I agree that as a team they did look rusty. I would expect them both to improve and to win the return match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 4 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Poland did use guests a couple of years ago in the Ekstraliga but taken from Liga 1. That was to simply cover during Covid, due to rider availability being impacted at a moments notice... And they didht allow riders to ride for more than one team in the top league... If Poland ran with guests like the UK does the sport would be finished at its current level overnight, as media and sponsors would drop it like a stone, with the fans then following suit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Fourentee said: I take the point in general, but Lynn didn't improve in the final five races, Palm Toft did! He and Jakobsen took seven of the 10 rides and scored all bar one of the points. Bit puzzled by Lynn, to be honest. Klindt looked blindingly quick in his second ride, but nowhere in the other two. Palm Toft picked up and should be a solid scorer; Jakobsen is clearly a gem and Edwards, after a strong end to last season and a fine opening night at Redcar, looks like a rider on the up. Jorgensen should be OK and I really rate Pickering, who gives his absolute all but just doesn't get Monmore. That just leaves Kasprzak, who has always struck me as a "how goes the first ride, goes the night" kind of confidence rider. He was, and it genuinely pains me to say this, woeful on Monday. Such a shame to see in a rider of his pedigree. At this stage of his career no-one expects the form of his world No.2 days, but I hope he can rediscover some semblance of his ability. All that being said, I agree that as a team they did look rusty. I would expect them both to improve and to win the return match. Klindt cant ride m.g ...never has and never will .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 But they still had squads of 10/11/12 riders of which they did not pick from. From memory, I think C Holder was one of the riders used in which he was a better rider than the squad members available so what is the use of a squad, covid or not? Sometimes you have to rider with a weaker team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 The results around Monmore are pretty much written off for every club. No need for any King's Lynn fan to panic from this. Most of us predict King's Lynn to finish bottom so getting 34 is 4 better than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted April 5, 2023 Report Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The results around Monmore are pretty much written off for every club. No need for any King's Lynn fan to panic from this. Most of us predict King's Lynn to finish bottom so getting 34 is 4 better than I thought. We won on both visits there last year. But I agree, winning there is not for everybody Edited April 5, 2023 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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