Phil Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 Watching Emil Sayfutdinov race last night was something special. Do you think Ipswitch have done a big favour to alot of other clubs to bring in the crowds when he rides away at other tracks this year in the UK ? When Ipswitch are in town its a definite one to watch and hopefully if Nick Pederson is ok that should help bring in a few extra in through the gates around the country. Anyone else ? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post orion Posted March 28, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) For all the moans on why crowds have dropped its always been quite clear to me that the main ireason s that the standard of rider has . The most stupid thing I kept hearing on here is that we don't need top riders. What other sport would work like that. If Emil or Nicki are riding at my local track I'm going its as simple as that. . Edited March 29, 2023 by orion 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, orion said: For all the moans on why crowds have dropped its always been quite clear to me that the main ireason s that the standard of rider has . The most stupid thing I kept hearing on her is that we don't need top riders. What other sport would work like that. If Emil or Nicki are riding at my local I'm going its as simple as that. . The issue was twofold for many as to why they walked away. Not just the standard of top flight rider's dropping but also the increased admission fees. As for increased gates because of Emil & Co, it's only a short-term boost, doesn't really add much to clubs profit margins at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, orion said: For all the moans on why crowds have dropped its always been quite clear to me that the main ireason s that the standard of rider has . The most stupid thing I kept hearing on her is that we don't need top riders. What other sport would work like that. If Emil or Nicki are riding at my local I'm going its as simple as that. . Correct. You could have a darts match between two pub players who were evenly matched and have a good tight contest but only averaging 60-70 and you wouldn’t fill one table at the ally pally. Roll out the Van Gerwen’s and Gerwyn Price’s averaging ton plus and you’re packing the place out. Speedway isn’t as popular as darts though obviously but it’s the same principle albeit on a smaller scale. Edited March 28, 2023 by Arch Stanton 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 Well the riders were commenting on how big the crowd at Peterborough was last night, so can only be a good thing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 It's a no brainer, bigger names mean more punters through the gate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I had a couple of friends travel up from Hertfordshire last night because of the riders on show, I’m sure that was the case for a few others to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 of us made a 2 hour journey we wouldn't have done without the returning riders. It's obvious better riders better racing. Monmore gets a lot of criticism but when all the top riders were here the racing was fantastic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LagutaRacingFan Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) Nobody doubts top riders draw crowds. The problem is that the top riders don't want to ride in Britain due to money and logistics. They're happy just to do Poland and the GPs. The only reason Nicki is riding in Britain is to boost his pension fund. Emil is riding in Britain because of his GP ban / being rusty due to the Russian ban. If Emil is invited back into the GPs next year, will he be riding in the Premiership next year? I highly doubt it. Edited March 28, 2023 by BassoRacingFan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: I had a couple of friends travel up from Hertfordshire last night because of the riders on show, I’m sure that was the case for a few others to I guess the 'proof of the pudding' will be if they travel up to attend every meeting?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I guess the 'proof of the pudding' will be if they travel up to attend every meeting?! Since the line ups in the league seem stronger generally I’m sure they will, 4/5 years ago they probably wouldn’t of bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 38 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: The issue was twofold for many as to why they walked away. Not just the standard of top flight rider's dropping but also the increased admission fees. As for increased gates because of Emil & Co, it's only a short-term boost, doesn't really add much to clubs profit margins at all. How would know.. At the end of day if you get enough fans they can pay for themselfs..You can apply that principle to any job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 Absolutely. Have only attended 2 domestic meetings since my club closed in 2018. The poor standard and the nonsense of riders riding for 2 teams of basically the same standard have put me off. Ipswich is 70-odd miles from me so will attend a few matches this season just to see Emil. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise. I do worry about British Speedway messing it up as usual though and demonstrating a lack of professionalism like last night at Peterborough with the floodlights and moving the white line. Riders like Emil and Nicki will just bin it off if that happens along with people like me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Watching Emil Sayfutdinov race last night was something special. Do you think Ipswitch have done a big favour to alot of other clubs to bring in the crowds when he rides away at other tracks this year in the UK ? When Ipswitch are in town its a definite one to watch and hopefully if Nick Pederson is ok that should help bring in a few extra in through the gates around the country. Anyone else ? Yes is the simple answer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bruno said: 3 of us made a 2 hour journey we wouldn't have done without the returning riders. It's obvious better riders better racing. Monmore gets a lot of criticism but when all the top riders were here the racing was fantastic The top riders have always been able to cope better at Monmore due to their advanced technical skills, but it's riders who want to fly around the boards that can't master the tight turns .Typical example is Leon Flint,racing at the big Berwick track and then having to come to the Green certainly isn't easy. Edited March 28, 2023 by Tommy Sweetman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishersGate Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 I'm curious what the crowd will be like at Leicester. With a change of race night some fans were saying they couldn't attend anymore. Also I noticed there were fans from wolves, Peterborough, belle Vue and Coventry that would attend cause it was a Saturday night. With it being a Thursday I expect it to drop BUT with Emil and Jason riding at the den I think it will even out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R87 Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, bruno said: 3 of us made a 2 hour journey we wouldn't have done without the returning riders. It's obvious better riders better racing. Monmore gets a lot of criticism but when all the top riders were here the racing was fantastic You were obviously sat facing the wrong way then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Jacobs Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 It's all well and good a few former fans returning to watch, and hopefully going again when a different team is riding, but it's whether there are any new fans being tempted ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Roger Jacobs said: It's all well and good a few former fans returning to watch, and hopefully going again when a different team is riding, but it's whether there are any new fans being tempted ... As long as new fans don't go near the rulebook then should be fine! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Phil said: Watching Emil Sayfutdinov race last night was something special. Do you think Ipswitch have done a big favour to alot of other clubs to bring in the crowds when he rides away at other tracks this year in the UK ? When Ipswitch are in town its a definite one to watch and hopefully if Nick Pederson is ok that should help bring in a few extra in through the gates around the country. Anyone else ? It will be a big boost, however history does suggest that it will only be a "novelty" bounce if the usual "nonsense" operating model manifests itself as the season progresses.. Let's hope Phil Morris can make the Premiership "credible" thus keeping fans interested enough to keep attending after the initial "first visits" of the "stars"... The sport's decline in the past 25 years or so in particular, was sharpest when the "top names," rode here and admission charges went inflation busting each year to afford them.. And as soon as Sky left the sport so did they, but the admission costs didnt come down... £24 to sit and watch the racing at the NSS is "top end" I would say when measuring VFM so at "lesser tracks" that kind of admission each week may dissuade some if what is on offer doesnt reflect the cost.. I enjoyed last night at the NSS, and look forward to going to see Emil and Nicki when they rock up, but not sure if I will repeat the visits when they come around again.. That will depend how "relevant" the Premiership will be under the new management of it. It is no doubt though a great opportunity for the Premiership and the sport as a whole so let's hope they can take it.. Historical evidence though does suggest that the custodians of the sport are often found wanting, so it will be interesting to see how they do now that they have been given several "Golden Tickets"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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