Oxford v Swindon Select - Rescheduled April 19

[Toady]

6 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

And that's your take away from my post? Says it all really.

Are you one of the moaners?

[Bojangles]

9 minutes ago, Toady said:

Are you one of the moaners?

I'll let you decide that for yourself. Literally the last time I'm going to bother responding to you, as you can't see anybody else's point of view. You may think the prices are okay or the booking system makes sense (and fair enough, I've never said you're wrong for having that opinion), but it's not up to you decide if other people think the prices etc. aren't okay. If people are moaning as you so eloquently put it, then something obviously isn't right. It's not as if it's just one person. Not sure how else to say it to make you understand that fact.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Bojangles

[Ovalman]

2 hours ago, lucifer sam said:

Hi Chris,

The views have been listened to. Jamie asked me about programme sales, and I said occasionally some came into the stadium without cash, and then had to walk half a mile up the road to the nearest cash point to get cash for a programme. As a result, no-one will have to do that this year. Anyone wanting to buy a programme with a card this year simply needs to go upstairs to the track shop, which will also sell the programme, and which accepts both card and cash (and Apple Pay and all sorts).  As for downstairs, it'll remain cash only, because there's no way I could sell around 500 in the last hour (which happened at times last year) while faffing around with card payments.

For those who didn't like having to pay online for every meeting, there's now the option of season tickets. Otherwise, anyone introducing or bringing back a speedway track is going to run it as a modern business, which is payment upfront online. Today's call-off has again showed the benefit of ease of transfer - this was even more obvious with the mid-meeting postponement of the Newcastle meeting last year, where everything wasn't left frantically searching for their re-admission ticket. Such antiquated policies went out out the ark - it's now 2023 and not 1983.

As we know, no matter how progressive a promotion is, they will always be people who like to moan (and are fully entitled to have a moan, if they like), because it's not run exactly like it was in 2007.  But it's one reason I rarely come on the BSF these days, because forums are largely redundant and largely populated by people who have little interest in current day speedway.

Speedway does not thrive by operating like it did 15 years ago. It acts like a modern, progressive business, and then like Oxford, it will attract plenty of younger support to go alongside the older die-hard supporters. The die-hards can't sustain a business alone. 

Wouldn't mind the crowds they had in 2007 though, stronger teams, Adams, Crump, Pedersen, Hancock, etc., and the 11 team Elite league before Oxford ceased in May.

Edited March 29, 2023 by auntie doris

[LisaColette]

I think the issue is Oxford are the only ones doing the admission like this. As someone has said other events do it, mainly entertainment things like admission to bonfire/fireworks night and carnivals etc. 

[Bojangles]

2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I think the issue is Oxford are the only ones doing the admission like this. As someone has said other events do it, mainly entertainment things like admission to bonfire/fireworks night and carnivals etc. 

Exactly. The prices/admission policy should be compared to rivals in the Championship, not Silverstone or Cardiff.

[Toady]

15 minutes ago, Bojangles said:

I'll let you decide that for yourself. Literally the last time I'm going to bother responding to you, as you can't see anybody else's point of view. You may think the prices are okay or the booking system makes sense (and fair enough, I've never said you're wrong for having that opinion), but it's not up to you decide if other people think the prices etc. aren't okay. If people are moaning as you so eloquently put it, then something obviously isn't right. It's not as if it's just one person. Not sure how else to say it to make you understand that fact.

Yes but the only way you can change the system is to contact the owners Not appealing to the army of ex fans who wouldn’t attend even if it was free

[Chris Brown]

54 minutes ago, lucifer sam said:

As has Cardiff for many years.  It's standard practice - an enticement to persuade people to book.

 

So just so I understand, we are now comparing getting 1500 to 2000 people into Cowley every week to a Silverstone formula 1 and the Cardiff GP and using those as a good comparison

Well Rob. I call that comparing apples with pears. It's just not a credible discussion. Those are mega events trying to deal with tens of thousands of people as opposed to whenever you come to the turn styles at Oxford speedway there may be 6 to 10 people in front of you

It's simply not a credible arguement but I am absolutely certain there is nothing you will accept is wrong with Oxford

You didn't answer that question about how many other clubs you visited this season who often no facility to pay on the day other than with a pre-book ticket on an app. I suspect I know the answer why

 

 

 

[Chris Brown]

13 minutes ago, Toady said:

Yes but the only way you can change the system is to contact the owners Not appealing to the army of ex fans who wouldn’t attend even if it was free

Problem is that they don't answer but Rob didn't comment on whether he thought that was an acceptable either

Edited March 29, 2023 by Chris Brown

[Toady]

5 minutes ago, Chris Brown said:

Problem is that they don't answer but Rob didn't comment on whether he thought that was an acceptable either

I am sure if you contact or speak to the promotor when the season starts along with the others on here then you will get an answer.

I have just received an email offering me a refund or move to rearranged fixture all very prompt

[foreverblue]

40 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I think the issue is Oxford are the only ones doing the admission like this. As someone has said other events do it, mainly entertainment things like admission to bonfire/fireworks night and carnivals etc. 

Lower league football grounds I have been to you can pay at the gate, on top of that there are no concession tickets available. I can see Premiership football at my favourite club(not Bournemouth) for  a concession rate of 20 pounds .

Edited March 29, 2023 by foreverblue

[LisaColette]

7 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Lower league football grounds I have been to you can pay at the gate, on top of that there are no concession tickets available. I can see Premiership football at my favourite club(not Bournemouth) for  a concession rate of 20 pounds .

Chelsea?

[foreverblue]

4 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Chelsea?

Well yes!  Quite cheap if you have reached a certain age.

[Tim G]

1 hour ago, Chris Brown said:

So just so I understand, we are now comparing getting 1500 to 2000 people into Cowley every week to a Silverstone formula 1 and the Cardiff GP and using those as a good comparison

Well Rob. I call that comparing apples with pears. It's just not a credible discussion. Those are mega events trying to deal with tens of thousands of people as opposed to whenever you come to the turn styles at Oxford speedway there may be 6 to 10 people in front of you

It's simply not a credible arguement but I am absolutely certain there is nothing you will accept is wrong with Oxford

You didn't answer that question about how many other clubs you visited this season who often no facility to pay on the day other than with a pre-book ticket on an app. I suspect I know the answer why

 

 

 

Silverstone is for all events not just formula 1.

Oxford speedway is not the only event I am going to this year where I will pay more money to enter on the day than I would if I bought a ticket in advance.

My Stepfather does MG car runs which he enters and has to pay for in advance and if the weather is rubbish he doesn’t go and loses his money, at least with the speedway you get your money back or go to another meeting.

I do however think it’s stupid that you can’t pay by card on the day.

 

 

[Fromafar]

2 hours ago, Toady said:

My opinion yes but just as valid as yours and you believe is right.There are plenty of people  who no longer go to speedway on the forum just look at the post above that eludes to the same.

 

Trouble is we’re talking about 1 topic here not the Sport in General,I know some on here no longer attend but why would they bother commenting on this Topic.You seem to imply they do.(typical of your Posts)

[steve roberts]

53 minutes ago, Tim G said:

Silverstone is for all events not just formula 1.

Oxford speedway is not the only event I am going to this year where I will pay more money to enter on the day than I would if I bought a ticket in advance.

My Stepfather does MG car runs which he enters and has to pay for in advance and if the weather is rubbish he doesn’t go and loses his money, at least with the speedway you get your money back or go to another meeting.

I do however think it’s stupid that you can’t pay by card on the day.

 

 

Agree.

[Technik]

The big disadvantage of no pay at the door on the day facility is you can't take someone along without making a prior plan.

I have a friend that is a massive rugby fan & I was in his area one saturday morning so I dropped in to see him. As time passed he asked if I'd like to go to watch his rugby club play & of course I agreed only to discover their pre-pay only policy. So the outcome is my friend lost his £15 for not attending & the club lost £15 by not allowing me to pay on the day via cash, card or in kind. I understand we are in the 21st centery but also people are now living a hectic lifestyle where plans are very fluid & change quickly. 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Technik
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[Toady]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Trouble is we’re talking about 1 topic here not the Sport in General,I know some on here no longer attend but why would they bother commenting on this Topic.You seem to imply they do.(typical of your Posts)

The fact is  they no longer go to speedway and have commented on This Topic frequently even more than you.

Typical of you to believe otherwise

[Triple.H.]

I'm about a mile from the track and after a day of showers off and on, it's now tipping down

Correct call made

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, Toady said:

The fact is  they no longer go to speedway and have commented on This Topic frequently even more than you.

Typical of you to believe otherwise

Who supplies your facts.( in your head no doubt).Rock on.

[foreverblue]

5 hours ago, Tim G said:

Silverstone is for all events not just formula 1.

Oxford speedway is not the only event I am going to this year where I will pay more money to enter on the day than I would if I bought a ticket in advance.

My Stepfather does MG car runs which he enters and has to pay for in advance and if the weather is rubbish he doesn’t go and loses his money, at least with the speedway you get your money back or go to another meeting.

I do however think it’s stupid that you can’t pay by card on the day.

 

 

MG car runs are more like booking a holiday, up to him if he doesn't want to go, it is his perogative, if on the other hand the run was called off he would get his money back .