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3 hours ago, lewy said:

Lol I knew a Poole fan would fall for it:rofl:

7 hours ago, Jonnybegood said:

Hopefully the las rider will be named soon …fed up waiting tbh

 

Lewy

 

Any truth in the rumour its Celina Liebmann ?

Apparently Gary May has found a loophole in Home office regulations that means in a sport classed as a male sport the BSPL would have to reduce the usual starter average to 2 points for an overseas ex EU rider. 

I gather Plymouth Press and Practice is Saturday 1st April, sure to attract massive TV interest.  

 

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29 minutes ago, Dickie Head said:

You would hope they use next Friday’s fans social to deliver news on the last rider and a the Centurions involvement in the Nora League.

Big article in this week's SS by the SCB's Jim Lawrence about the issues of track licences/insurances etc if an SCB licensed track hosts a NORA league meeting with NORA league officials.

Questions of insurance and compensation for any injured riders and/or seriously damaged machines have not yet been resolved/clarified.

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6 hours ago, HGould said:

Lewy

 

Any truth in the rumour its Celina Liebmann ?

Apparently Gary May has found a loophole in Home office regulations that means in a sport classed as a male sport the BSPL would have to reduce the usual starter average to 2 points for an overseas ex EU rider. 

I gather Plymouth Press and Practice is Saturday 1st April, sure to attract massive TV interest.  

 

Hmm, is it wise to have it on April Fools Day? :blink:

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2 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Big article in this week's SS by the SCB's Jim Lawrence about the issues of track licences/insurances etc if an SCB licensed track hosts a NORA league meeting with NORA league officials.

Questions of insurance and compensation for any injured riders and/or seriously damaged machines have not yet been resolved/clarified.

This is the tip of an iceberg speedway (and every other 'extreme' sport) must face in future.     

The ban on motorsport in Ulster will force all branches of all disciplines to look hard at their control procedures and all forms of insurance for activities.   

The ACU/SCB would be remiss if they did not take every prudent step to protect their product, ensure their licences allow speedway in the rest of the UK to continue under properly-controlled, legally-insured conditions.

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12 hours ago, HGould said:

Lewy

 

Any truth in the rumour its Celina Liebmann ?

Apparently Gary May has found a loophole in Home office regulations that means in a sport classed as a male sport the BSPL would have to reduce the usual starter average to 2 points for an overseas ex EU rider. 

I gather Plymouth Press and Practice is Saturday 1st April, sure to attract massive TV interest.  

 

Celina would come in on a 4 average i believe. 

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6 hours ago, crescent girl said:

This is the tip of an iceberg speedway (and every other 'extreme' sport) must face in future.     

The ban on motorsport in Ulster will force all branches of all disciplines to look hard at their control procedures and all forms of insurance for activities.   

The ACU/SCB would be remiss if they did not take every prudent step to protect their product, ensure their licences allow speedway in the rest of the UK to continue under properly-controlled, legally-insured conditions.

The ACU/SCB do not have the monopoly on “speedway” so they have only limited rights. 
For example, Scunthorpe amongst other tracks have run events under Nora 92.

Further, there is no “ban on motorsport” in Ulster - the organiser of various motorcycle road racing events have cancelled these for 2023 because they say they cannot afford insurance cover. These events have high risk to spectators - so public liability - because they are run on closed public roads and not in stadiums. “Speedway” is run in more controlled environments where the risk to spectators is far less. 

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1 hour ago, Wee Eck said:

The ACU/SCB do not have the monopoly on “speedway” so they have only limited rights. 
For example, Scunthorpe amongst other tracks have run events under Nora 92.

Further, there is no “ban on motorsport” in Ulster - the organiser of various motorcycle road racing events have cancelled these for 2023 because they say they cannot afford insurance cover. These events have high risk to spectators - so public liability - because they are run on closed public roads and not in stadiums. “Speedway” is run in more controlled environments where the risk to spectators is far less. 

Surely the SCB/ACU DO have the monopoly on speedway at SCB-Licensed tracks. Do Scunthorpe run NORA Speedway meetings or is it other non-speedway Motorsports events under The NORA banner and licence?

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11 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Surely the SCB/ACU DO have the monopoly on speedway at SCB-Licensed tracks. Do Scunthorpe run NORA Speedway meetings or is it other non-speedway Motorsports events under The NORA banner and licence?

Wrong thread, this is Plymouths last signing nothing else. Thanks 

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7 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Surely the SCB/ACU DO have the monopoly on speedway at SCB-Licensed tracks. Do Scunthorpe run NORA Speedway meetings or is it other non-speedway Motorsports events under The NORA banner and licence?

The answer is NO they don't, the Stadium Owner decides what they run.

The crux of the situation though is that is the situation NOW!

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A close read and interpretation of what SCB have said, is that the rules WILL be changed, quite explicitly they have suggested, that if Kent / Plymouth want to run NORA league, they won't be able to run SCB. 

To quote-:

"An email has now been sent to all Promoters basically saying that if you are running as an SCB licensed track and you have an SCB Track License, you can't run NORA 92. You can leave us and go with them from now on if you like, which we would be very sad about and we wouldn't want to happen, but we'd part as friends"

(Speedway Star Page 7 - top middle paragraph attributed to Jim Lawrence)

So the SCB Ruling Committee (which includes Rob Godfrey and Damian Bates does ot not?), have effectively moved the goalposts, cut off thier noses to spite their face, run off like spoilt brats taking the balls, nets, goalposts with them. 

 

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58 minutes ago, HGould said:

The answer is NO they don't, the Stadium Owner decides what they run.

The crux of the situation though is that is the situation NOW!

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A close read and interpretation of what SCB have said, is that the rules WILL be changed, quite explicitly they have suggested, that if Kent / Plymouth want to run NORA league, they won't be able to run SCB. 

To quote-:

"An email has now been sent to all Promoters basically saying that if you are running as an SCB licensed track and you have an SCB Track License, you can't run NORA 92. You can leave us and go with them from now on if you like, which we would be very sad about and we wouldn't want to happen, but we'd part as friends"

(Speedway Star Page 7 - top middle paragraph attributed to Jim Lawrence)

So the SCB Ruling Committee (which includes Rob Godfrey and Damian Bates does ot not?), have effectively moved the goalposts, cut off thier noses to spite their face, run off like spoilt brats taking the balls, nets, goalposts with them. 

 

I am not absolutely certain of this but I believe the SCB has a monopoly on 'speedway' events in this country. Its why the Isle of Wight termed their meetings for the last couple of seasons as 'dirt track'.

The wording could therefore be important if not decisive.

What you have quoted - I haven't seen the article - sounds very much like a restraint of trade which is, based upon case law, illegal. It won't be the first time that the SCB has tried to enforce something that they know won't stand up and from which they will back away from at the first sign of litigation (the attempt to bar Scott Nicholls riding Championship springs to mind). 

What they are doing, in no uncertain terms, is blackmail. Its a high stakes game, however, because the potential loss of 2 more tracks (reducing the number of stand alones to just 17) would be disastrous and they well know it.

The statement 'part as friends'  is so absolutely insincere and false the mind boggles, but then that sums the SCB up.

(Apologies for the thread nap).

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13 hours ago, lewy said:

Wrong thread, this is Plymouths last signing nothing else. Thanks 

Why not tell those that introduced the topic then? I was merely responding to another post about 'the Centurians in the NORA league' (presumably the final Gladiator could be another Centurian rider - or not?), and the SS article that attempts to clarify what SCB-licensed tracks are allowed to do - or not?!

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I do have a soft spot for Plymouth so their last signing means a lot to me.

I'd personally like to see someone with a bit of track experience in the Championship already, could be important with someone as fresh as Ben Trigger at number 7.

What about Josh MacDonald? He's posted on Twitter that he's looking for 2023, could be a risk though with a year out with injury, but could be brilliant equally.

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