therefused Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: At M.G last year he was put in the difficult No 6 position when really he should have been the RS....It would have took the pressure off him ...cant understand why nobody went in for him this year as a R.S ...He's better than some ... I repeat, if he’s better than some, why hasn’t he been picked (answer is, he isn’t better than some) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrss Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, therefused said: I repeat, if he’s better than some, why hasn’t he been picked (answer is, he isn’t better than some) I personally think he’s better than Jack Thomas and Jason Edwards, and probably better than Leon Flint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said: Biggest problem total lack of aggression,you have to admire anyone who sits astride a speedway bike,but unfortunately for Drew whether it's a lack of confidence or a unwillingness to dice with the opposition who knows. Adams gave him opportunities of an extra ride when the result was safe and the pressure was off,but for what ever the reason he always failed to deliver the goods.Good luck to the guy in future,but if he wants to progress in the sport his outlook will have to change. True ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, mrss said: I personally think he’s better than Jack Thomas and Jason Edwards, and probably better than Leon Flint. He's defiantly better than J.Thomas and J.Edwards ...not so sure about L..Flint tho ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Haza said: In my opinion he thinks he’s far better than he actually is - hopefully the talent he had will win through in the end According to his right up in the S.Star ..Ipswich promised him a R S place then went for JThomas......And hes there assett...makes u think .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: According to his right up in the S.Star ..Ipswich promised him a R S place then went for JThomas......And hes there assett...makes u think .... That wasn’t said at all. No club was mentioned, you’re just speculating that it was Ipswich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 i don't think it was Ipswich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Numbers are irrelevant, he’s a rising star. Rising stars don’t contribute to the team building totals. It is if you don’t get a rising star spot.Dan Thompson is an example. Also the Championship does not have Rising Star spot. Edited February 4, 2023 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It is if you don’t get a rising star spot.Dan Thompson is an example. Also the Championship does not have Rising Star spot. But he was talking about the Premiership rising star list so as far as that goes, the numbers are irrelevant. He looks like one of the plum picks for me so the fact nobody has gone with him is staggering. I mean he’s our asset, and yet we’ve gone for Jack Thomas instead. Something definitely amiss there. Edited February 4, 2023 by Arch Stanton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 27 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: But he was talking about the Premiership rising star list so as far as that goes, the numbers are irrelevant. He looks like one of the plum picks for me so the fact nobody has gone with him is staggering. I mean he’s our asset, and yet we’ve gone for Jack Thomas instead. Something definitely amiss there. I was talking in General with the lowering of Averages in Championship Kemp and Thompson can’t find a spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 hours ago, mrss said: I personally think he’s better than Jack Thomas and Jason Edwards, and probably better than Leon Flint. In terms of natural talent? Because he certainly isn't as a complete package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technik Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 I seem to recall that the rising star label was only applicable for two seasons for any rider. But if Drew Kemp has not been selected by any of the Premiership or Championship clubs then he needs to take a long hard look at himself & answer his own questions 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teromaafan Posted February 4, 2023 Report Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: He's defiantly better than J.Thomas and J.Edwards ...not so sure about L..Flint tho ... Doesn’t matter what anyone’s opinion is on him, he hasn’t got a team place simply because team’s decision makers consider other riders are better value. Matter closed……..until May, when someone somewhere is under performing and the scramble starts for unattached options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 14 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's not a numbers game on the Rising Star list. Everyone who can ride these bikes has talent. The issue is whether they have the work ethic or do they just want things to fall in their laps without effort? Has he believed his own hype & gained a stinker of an ego? Got to say that I haven't seen this "talent" people talk about. He certainly isn't up there with Woffinden, Lambert, Bewley at a young age. I don't think it's fair to judge any young Brit against the talents of Woffinden, Lambert & Bewley at a young age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Technik said: I seem to recall that the rising star label was only applicable for two seasons for any rider. But if Drew Kemp has not been selected by any of the Premiership or Championship clubs then he needs to take a long hard look at himself & answer his own questions That was me er the case, a rider could be a "rising star" for probably 9 seasons (16-24 years old) as long as their average doesn't go too high! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: But he was talking about the Premiership rising star list so as far as that goes, the numbers are irrelevant. He looks like one of the plum picks for me so the fact nobody has gone with him is staggering. I mean he’s our asset, and yet we’ve gone for Jack Thomas instead. Something definitely amiss there. I think Thomas is very promising, so can see why Ipswich went for him, biggest shock pick over Kemp has to be Mulford for me. 2.00 Champ rider (with a sub 8 NL ave) picked ahead of a 5+ Champ rider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25yearfan Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 14 hours ago, HGould said: No doubting his ability at all. The problem seems to be that a number of Clubs have witness a tendency to go "full strop mode" the minute things don't go his way and a general lack of self confidence meaning he can't cope with adversity. Some young riders mature more quickly than others and in many Sports and in life, it's when you hit tough times that you define yourself. He's been at some very good Clubs with excellent mentors available to him, not in the least in 2022 at Wolves and Poole,s o you have to ask what the answer is if Adams and Middleditch can't find the mental and emotional key. May be a year to reflect on not having a GB place and learning new skills in Poland will be the making of him. Contrast with Brennan, very much is peer and equal at age levels, who has fought injury adversity on the Track and huge personal loss off it and come through it apparently tougher and harder and away from his comfort zone. Agree totally! Undoubtedly talented especially when he makes a decent gate and gets clear of the pack. If he gets caught in the pack and is in close contact with elbows, legs and bikes hes always the first one to back off. - Unless he gets more aggressive he won't go much if any further. Add in all the talk, publicity and book writing which makes him seem like he has a massively over inflated opinion of how good he actually is then its no surprise that hes run out of teams who want to use him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 7 hours ago, 25yearfan said: Agree totally! Undoubtedly talented especially when he makes a decent gate and gets clear of the pack. If he gets caught in the pack and is in close contact with elbows, legs and bikes hes always the first one to back off. - Unless he gets more aggressive he won't go much if any further. Add in all the talk, publicity and book writing which makes him seem like he has a massively over inflated opinion of how good he actually is then its no surprise that hes run out of teams who want to use him. Agreed.....Does lack aggression... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 23 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: It's not a numbers game on the Rising Star list. Everyone who can ride these bikes has talent. The issue is whether they have the work ethic or do they just want things to fall in their laps without effort? Has he believed his own hype & gained a stinker of an ego? Got to say that I haven't seen this "talent" people talk about. He certainly isn't up there with Woffinden, Lambert, Bewley at a young age. I made a point of keeping a close eye on him last time I saw him in the flesh as he usually flies under the radar whenever I've seen him. And he looks to be a very good rider technically, not wild, no daft moves. He reminds me a bit of Lee Richardson, Lee could hardly score a point in the early stages of his career and it was a wonder that he stuck at it. If you're the type of rider who is a "steady eddy" you really need to sort your gating out and that's probably Drew's main deficiency. I don't know the guy personally, just from what I've heard on podcasts etc. and he seems a very level headed young lad with a good outlook on the sport. Like I say if you're a see where I am at the first bend and stay there merchant he needs to make sure he's in the points at the first bend, can't really see him riding it balls out scraping the fence pulling Zmarzlik moves to get by his opponents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted February 5, 2023 Report Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) I think the laddie needs to stop wearing upside down plant pots on his head, get a haircut, toughen up a bit and spend less time on producing calenders etc. Seems to be a case of more style than substance (of the right sort) Edited February 5, 2023 by Hamish McRaker 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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