Drew Kemp

[szkocjasid]

On 2/8/2023 at 4:07 PM, Froglord said:

The other guy missing a spot is Anders Rowe, who did extremely well in the Polish U24 league last year. Such a shame for young UK talent to be left on the sidelines...

 

 

22 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Didn't he turn his back on the UK last year though. 

 

22 hours ago, Froglord said:

I think its more like the UK turned its back on him. I know nothing about the details tbf.

Rowe quit at Leicester. I get the impression he's not bothered about racing in GB, happier in Poland. Imo can't count him as a Brit unlucky not to have a UK team.

[szkocjasid]

10 hours ago, Technik said:

As I understand The club no longer wanted the pair & they also had issues at Somerset & Ipswich I believe.

He must have quit because Leicester were allowed guests, if he was dropped they wouldn't have been allowed guests.

They might not have wanted him anymore, but they didn't drop him.

[Technik]

Anders Rowe Has not been in The U21 set up for some time. Not competing in the British U21 or the FIM qualification rounds. I'm not sure these actions will please the Polish clubs as they want their riders in the top events so they can get more valued sponsorship

[kevin bass]

12 hours ago, Technik said:

Anders Rowe Has not been in The U21 set up for some time. Not competing in the British U21 or the FIM qualification rounds. I'm not sure these actions will please the Polish clubs as they want their riders in the top events so they can get more valued sponsorship

I'm sure Rowe was banned from the British u21 team get togethers for a while yr or so ago coz he had a falling out with Kemp so must have his issues, whether he has a attitude problem or is just a bit of a hot head, or he just thinks he's better than he is and was more committed to riding in the Polish junior league then here in the UK last season.

[Bagpuss]

Kemp and Rowe both looked excellent prospects at 16 years old, it's a real shame that for whatever reason they've lost their way. It's not ability on a motorcycle, they just seem to lack elements of what it takes to be the whole package. 

[kevin bass]

49 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Kemp and Rowe both looked excellent prospects at 16 years old, it's a real shame that for whatever reason they've lost their way. It's not ability on a motorcycle, they just seem to lack elements of what it takes to be the whole package. 

Yeah dunno what's happening with Kemp, thought a season or 2 away from Foxhall would help but it don't seem like it, as been said b4 there's no doubting his ability but it could be a head thing and he ain't mentally strong enough to cope with the ups and downs that speedway can bring.

[Pauldoveyspeedway]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Kemp and Rowe both looked excellent prospects at 16 years old, it's a real shame that for whatever reason they've lost their way. It's not ability on a motorcycle, they just seem to lack elements of what it takes to be the whole package. 

Very true...both got talent but lost there way ...Both should  be better  than they are now..

[Hamish McRaker]

On 2/7/2023 at 12:41 PM, lisa-colette said:

Tbf he has had his hair cut over the winter!

New look, maybe new mindset, so now just needs a new team to go with them. Probably won't have to wait too long into the season until he gets a chance. Him and Dan Thompson vying for first dibs. Who will be first to get the call out of those two?

 

 

[LisaColette]

On 2/8/2023 at 8:47 PM, Call me wolfie said:

Bloody spellcheck I bet

Not sure. Normally I read what I put before I post it but don't think I did that time! 

[Cliftonboy]

On 2/8/2023 at 7:17 PM, Technik said:

I have heard that Mr Rowe & his Father are very difficult to work with & some British clubs are not prepared to put up with them.

This is rubbish, there were many clubs looking at signing Anders in the winter. He came back last year because he was wanted and put a point on his average which has gone against him for the start of 2023. When clubs start looking at strengthening up Anders and Drew will be the most in demand.

[Cliftonboy]

On 2/9/2023 at 7:56 PM, Technik said:

Anders Rowe Has not been in The U21 set up for some time. Not competing in the British U21 or the FIM qualification rounds. I'm not sure these actions will please the Polish clubs as they want their riders in the top events so they can get more valued sponsorship

Again this is rubbish, Anders was seeded to the final in 22 but couldn't ride in the final and is seeded again in 23 in Glasgow. I can assure you his Polish Team are 100% Anders and are looking forward to him representing GB in 2023.

[szkocjasid]

On 2/10/2023 at 8:50 AM, Bagpuss said:

Kemp and Rowe both looked excellent prospects at 16 years old, it's a real shame that for whatever reason they've lost their way. It's not ability on a motorcycle, they just seem to lack elements of what it takes to be the whole package. 

I'm not sure "lost his way" would be a good way to describe Kemp, who almost put 2 points on his average last season.

[4BenMoran]

Both Kemp and Rowe had too much smoke blown up their arses, neither have really progressed and taken the next step even with all the gear etc, it’s OK saying they are riding in Poland u24 league but some of the Polish kids on that league are in their first year(s) on a 500cc bike.  They both unfortunately are going down the same path as likes of Bickley etc by flitting around the reserve births in the Championship and only getting a Premiership ride as a guest  

[scotty2hotty]

I think 99% of Drew's problems in 2022 were financial. The costs are so high, but the points money for reserves is not good. His equipment was not the best as he couldn't afford the costs.  He needs some good sponsors and he needs new equipment.  How frustrating it must be when you know you are good enough, but you haven't got the speed. It knocks your confidence and you start thinking 'is it me or the bike?' He does also have a tendancy to 'strop', but I think this year, he has realised that that wasn't a good look and didn't win him friends or supporters.  I really hope that Drew gets a team place at some point in the Uk this year, an up and coming British rider should not be having to go to POland to get a ride.

[Bagpuss]

6 hours ago, szkocjasid said:

I'm not sure "lost his way" would be a good way to describe Kemp, who almost put 2 points on his average last season.

That's a fair point but his starting point was low. You could argue that he went from 3.36 to 3.00 in the Premiership despite moving to the track with the biggest home advantage. I suspect Poole's strength at home and being in a title winning side explains in part why he increased his Championship figure.

I guess the way he exploded onto the scene in 2019 at Sheffield made many people think and expect that he would rapidly progress but it hasn't happened. Same with Rowe after his first season at Somerset. He at least is scoring well in the U24 Polish league but perhaps both riders just aren't as good as we all thought. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Bagpuss

[Fromafar]

Irrespective of how Drew and Anders progress British Speedway is going to suffer .Any British youngster that developing fast is going to lost in the main to Polish Speedway as has been proved with Bewley and Lambert,and let’s be honest British Clubs will struggle to meet their demands unless Swedish speedway (which is struggling) goes completely t#ts up,and the riders want to top up their earnings over here again.

Ambition for any Young rider in the WORLD is to get into Polish Speedway.

[Falcon1983]

4 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Irrespective of how Drew and Anders progress British Speedway is going to suffer .Any British youngster that developing fast is going to lost in the main to Polish Speedway as has been proved with Bewley and Lambert,and let’s be honest British Clubs will struggle to meet their demands unless Swedish speedway (which is struggling) goes completely t#ts up,and the riders want to top up their earnings over here again.

Ambition for any Young rider in the WORLD is to get into Polish Speedway.

This is very true but how many riders make it to the top tier of Poland, even if they go via the U24 route as Poland will keep unearthing hugely talented riders due to the help they get from a young age

This country needs to keep churning out talent, to a level that is talented enough to fill places in our league, yes they will set out with the ambitions of being World champion and may race in the Poland U24s 

More needs to be done on home soil which rewards british domestic level riders 

[Fromafar]

10 hours ago, Falcon1983 said:

This is very true but how many riders make it to the top tier of Poland, even if they go via the U24 route as Poland will keep unearthing hugely talented riders due to the help they get from a young age

This country needs to keep churning out talent, to a level that is talented enough to fill places in our league, yes they will set out with the ambitions of being World champion and may race in the Poland U24s 

More needs to be done on home soil which rewards british domestic level riders 

Lowering the Average’s is  doing no favours to British Speedway,regarding bringing on British youngsters.At least 3 or 4 are missing out this season because of it IMO.

[arnieg]

1 minute ago, Fromafar said:

Lowering the Average’s is  doing no favours to British Speedway,regarding bringing on British youngsters.At least 3 or 4 are missing out this season because of it IMO.

The key failing was not to put a restriction on heatleader strength that would prevent teams having a powerful top three and as a consequence three low averaged riders, leaving little room for the mid-range riders.

[Fromafar]

24 minutes ago, arnieg said:

The key failing was not to put a restriction on heatleader strength that would prevent teams having a powerful top three and as a consequence three low averaged riders, leaving little room for the mid-range riders.

Grading would be a solution if it could be done without riders manipulating it easily.Riders already look after their averages with the present system.