bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Thanks, I didn't think they did but wasn't 100% sure... I take it that's the same for both cups too? Tactical’s not allowed in any two legged competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Tactical’s not allowed in any two legged competition But with the return of the aggregate bonus point aren't all league matches two legged competitions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 27 minutes ago, arnieg said: But with the return of the aggregate bonus point aren't all league matches two legged competitions? Tactical’s not allowed in Premier KO Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted March 10, 2023 Report Share Posted March 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, arnieg said: But with the return of the aggregate bonus point aren't all league matches two legged competitions? Spot on I think the day of the double tac is over - particularly with the new dawn of transparency and integrity heralded as part of the Phil Morris appointment.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrow Boy 2 Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 10:04 AM, 4BM said: It’s a strange one with the number 6 spot this year as a lot of good riders down there, some on artificial averages. Just checked Lewis Kerr and with certain matches not counting towards his average in his time at Sheffield (Play offs, League Cup final) his last 10 rolling would be 6.72 (7.54 inc bonus points) if all matches counted, that’s against his actual end of season rolling of 4.71. Like Kings Lynn with their compact second strings I can see Kerr, Howarth and Bellego all possibly having stints at number 6 during the season, think most teams will see movement between 2/4/6 especially once riders have bedded in and received an actual average for this season All meaningful matches should be included in riders averages. What's the difference between a K/O Cup and a League Match? True averages would then apply and be the same for all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: All meaningful matches should be included in riders averages. What's the difference between a K/O Cup and a League Match? True averages would then apply and be the same for all. It should be based on 2 home 2 away league averages...10 rolling leaves it open to fiddle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It should be based on 2 home 2 away league averages...10 rolling leaves it open to fiddle... And using 2 home 2 away would leave it more open to manipulation. Someone could drop from a 10 point average to 4 within a month. Very handy at the end of the season!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: And using 2 home 2 away would leave it more open to manipulation. Someone could drop from a 10 point average to 4 within a month. Very handy at the end of the season!!! It was always that before ...10 is No good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It was always that before ...10 is No good... No it wasn't. In the past averages were based on every league match in the season. They still should. Rolling averages should be based on the number of league matches in a season. 10 is too few to get a fair average. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted March 12, 2023 Report Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It was always that before ...10 is No good... What are you on about? The fewer meetings it’s based on, the worse it is. Are you you seriously saying an average is better based on 4 meetings than 10? If so you know nothing about speedway! Imagine the scenario, Ipswich guaranteed a playoff place with 4 meetings still to ride, Emil and Doyle could drop their average to 4 and start the next season as reserves. That’s better though hey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It should be based on 2 home 2 away league averages...10 rolling leaves it open to fiddle... 7 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: And using 2 home 2 away would leave it more open to manipulation. Someone could drop from a 10 point average to 4 within a month. Very handy at the end of the season!!! 7 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It was always that before ...10 is No good... 6 hours ago, RoundTheBoards said: No it wasn't. In the past averages were based on every league match in the season. They still should. Rolling averages should be based on the number of league matches in a season. 10 is too few to get a fair average. 3 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: What are you on about? The fewer meetings it’s based on, the worse it is. Are you you seriously saying an average is better based on 4 meetings than 10? If so you know nothing about speedway! Imagine the scenario, Ipswich guaranteed a playoff place with 4 meetings still to ride, Emil and Doyle could drop their average to 4 and start the next season as reserves. That’s better though hey! I'm guessing Pauldoveyspeedway meant counting the averages from both A&B fixtures, home & away i.e all League fixtures, as that makes more sense than a 4 match rolling ave? So either he didn't explain it well, or he's gone mad lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) It's like living in an echo chamber reading some of Pauldoveyspeedway posts,most of them make no sense . Edited March 13, 2023 by Tommy Sweetman Wrong thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: What are you on about? The fewer meetings it’s based on, the worse it is. Are you you seriously saying an average is better based on 4 meetings than 10? If so you know nothing about speedway! Imagine the scenario, Ipswich guaranteed a playoff place with 4 meetings still to ride, Emil and Doyle could drop their average to 4 and start the next season as reserves. That’s better though hey! Wake up ...i didnt say that .home and away twice ...get it ...so last year 20 matches.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Tommy Sweetman said: It's like living in an echo chamber reading some of Pauldoveyspeedway posts,most of them make no sense . U just cant read ...As if i was going to say 4 matches.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I'm guessing Pauldoveyspeedway meant counting the averages from both A&B fixtures, home & away i.e all League fixtures, as that makes more sense than a 4 match rolling ave? So either he didn't explain it well, or he's gone mad lol! Course i ment home and away ...A and B league fixtures... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Now all teams are finished can revise my prediction: 1. Sheffield 2. Belle Vue 3. Kings Lynn 4. Wolverhampton 5. Ipswich 6. Peterborough 7. Leicester Edited 24/3 - realised Belle Vue will get lots of bonus points Edited March 24, 2023 by szkocjasid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: U just cant read ...As if i was going to say 4 matches.. 20 hours ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said: It should be based on 2 home 2 away league averages... 2+2 = ? *cough* *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Belle Vue - Outstanding no 1 with a solid looking team right down the order, Lidsey and Brennan are the key in my opinion but look very likely to make the play offs. Ipswich - Excellent top two but have question marks in a few positions lower down, they will need King to get back to his best and Rew to kick on to do any good. Kings Lynn - Solid looking team right down the order but look to be lacking in the heat leader department, to many question marks for my liking and not sure Jakobsen will save them either. Leicester - Gone for the top heavy look but have paid the price at the bottom which looks very suspect, Fricke and Harris will score good points everywhere but the key will be Lawson and Morris. Peterborough - Plenty of experience but I think it will come down to how well the middle order go, Basso and Cook have potential but question marks remain against Andersen and Worrall. Sheffield - Another solid looking team headed by a good no 1 but they are clearly banking on Bellego to step up and Kerr to produce last years form, they do look likely to make the play offs. Wolverhampton - Same old same old at Monmore but to do any good they need serious improvement from Becker and Douglas, I think they will hold their own at MG but could struggle on the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Now all teams are finished can revise my prediction: 1. Sheffield 2. Kings Lynn 3. Belle Vue 4. Wolverhampton 5. Ipswich 6. Peterborough 7. Leicester KL second and Wolves fourth? Interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted March 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, PotteringAround said: 2+2 = ? *cough* *cough* U know what i ment ...cough...cough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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