hawks 1975 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 So Si has said that he's hoping to have 4 of last season's team back for 2023. Which 4 do the fans want? I'd love to see Alfie back, but will we go with a such a strong top two again? Ben Morley I would guess is a certainty, and I would suspect Joe Alcock is also, given his starting average, albeit it's a gamble that he can return and produce the form he was showing prior to his nasty smash. My fourth bet would be Connor King, who showed plenty of spirit after he joined. Our having such a strong top two did us proud at Iwade in all those last heat deciders, but our lack of strength lower down saw us struggle away. Given the loss of Plymouth, and the possibility of Mildenhall riders also becoming available, the choice of riders might be such that a more balanced side is preferable. What would the Iwade faithful prefer? Personally I would like to see Jack Kingston in the seven, and a young hopeful at reserve. Is Sonny Springer too young still? Si did brilliantly last year to get such a side together so late in the day. This year he will have more time and choice. I'm looking forward to it already, as I look out at the snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipper11 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, hawks 1975 said: So Si has said that he's hoping to have 4 of last season's team back for 2023. Which 4 do the fans want? I'd love to see Alfie back, but will we go with a such a strong top two again? Ben Morley I would guess is a certainty, and I would suspect Joe Alcock is also, given his starting average, albeit it's a gamble that he can return and produce the form he was showing prior to his nasty smash. My fourth bet would be Connor King, who showed plenty of spirit after he joined. Our having such a strong top two did us proud at Iwade in all those last heat deciders, but our lack of strength lower down saw us struggle away. Given the loss of Plymouth, and the possibility of Mildenhall riders also becoming available, the choice of riders might be such that a more balanced side is preferable. What would the Iwade faithful prefer? Personally I would like to see Jack Kingston in the seven, and a young hopeful at reserve. Is Sonny Springer too young still? Si did brilliantly last year to get such a side together so late in the day. This year he will have more time and choice. I'm looking forward to it already, as I look out at the snow! Have to agree with you hawks. Morley, King & Alcock must be nailed on. I would add Ben Trigger to the wanted list & I would also like to see Ablitt back at Kent if Si can see past his non arrival at Edinburgh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 Alcock nailed on, King and Morley likely as others have covered. Danno retired, Halder and Woods highly unlikely so straight scrap between Bowtell, Woolley and Watts. Alfie is the obvious pick but Sam was the management favourite all year. To be fair the side did incredibly well considering the loss of/lack of a 3rd heat leader all season coupled with some managerial bloopers along the way. I hope that the 4 are actually signed up or negotiations and the Xmas party are going to be awkward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 1 Alfie Bowtell 10.67 2 Connor King 4.16 3 Nathan Ablitt 7.20 4 Joe Alcock 4.36 5 Ben Morley 9.29 6 Sam Woolley 3.27 7 Chris Watts/Sam Woods 3.00 41.95 Not sure who's more popular between Chris Watts and Sam Woods. Although that is 6 returning, but it shows the possibilities. Edited December 13, 2022 by Diamonds85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: 1 Alfie Bowtell 10.67 2 Connor King 4.16 3 Nathan Ablitt 7.20 4 Joe Alcock 4.36 5 Ben Morley 9.29 6 Sam Woolley 3.27 7 Chris Watts/Sam Woods 3.00 41.95 Not sure who's more popular between Chris Watts and Sam Woods. Although that is 6 returning, but it shows the possibilities. Think Watts wins that vote amongst both riders and fans. Swap Ablitt for Tom Woolley and it would create a strong unit as well as a competitive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks 1975 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 I also rate Ben Trigger, and I wonder whether another of last year's Centurions might be in the frame in Rhys Naylor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1075 Posted December 13, 2022 Report Share Posted December 13, 2022 How about this line up. 1. Ben Morley. 9.29 2. Rhys Naylor. 4.52 3. Jack Kingston. 6.45 4. Ben Trigger. 6.00 5. Nathan Ablett. 7.20 6. Joe Alcock. 4.36 7. Connor King. 4.16 TOTAL. 41.98 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks 1975 Posted December 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 Strength in depth Dave 1075, but perhaps not the top end strength for away? How about: 1. Alfie Bowtell 10.67 2. Joe Alcock 4.36 3. Jack Kingston 6.45 4. Connor King 4.16 5. Ben Morley 9.29 6. Jacob Clouting 4.07 7. Sonny Springer hopefully, or Chris Watts 3.00 total 42.00! I notice that Jack Kingston had the 9th best away average in the league! He goes well at Iwade, could be a trump card. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted December 15, 2022 Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, hawks 1975 said: Strength in depth Dave 1075, but perhaps not the top end strength for away? How about: 1. Alfie Bowtell 10.67 2. Joe Alcock 4.36 3. Jack Kingston 6.45 4. Connor King 4.16 5. Ben Morley 9.29 6. Jacob Clouting 4.07 7. Sonny Springer hopefully, or Chris Watts 3.00 total 42.00! I notice that Jack Kingston had the 9th best away average in the league! He goes well at Iwade, could be a trump card. Sonny is only just 14 so not old enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks 1975 Posted December 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2022 Feared he was! We'll have to wait a while longer - he's a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Bradford Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 What about Max Clegg he was unbeaten around iwade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnThomsen Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 I think strength in depth will be the name of the game so a Max or Alfie plus Ben will take up too many points.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardey Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 Does Max's 11.73 NDL average from last season carry over into this one? (Im genuinely not sure how the points system works) He only a couple of few meetings, is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted December 19, 2022 Report Share Posted December 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Wardey said: Does Max's 11.73 NDL average from last season carry over into this one? (Im genuinely not sure how the points system works) He only a couple of few meetings, is that right? Yes it will he at least had 4 at home not sure how many he did away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardey Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 21 hours ago, mc131 said: Yes it will he at least had 4 at home not sure how many he did away Thanks. Hope that doesnt stop him from getting a NDL place this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, Wardey said: Thanks. Hope that doesnt stop him from getting a NDL place this season As much as i like Max im not really sure how a rider who would have clocked 12.00 bar following home a team mate once is going to land a team place, its just too big a chunk of points used. Personally i think it would be nice to restrict the use of riders on high averages (to force rider progression up through and out the NDL) no 9+ riders for example but average manipulation would likely go crazy. My bigger hope is that Max lands a CL place as him missing out there after a strong finish with Leicester would be especially harsh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Wardey said: Thanks. Hope that doesnt stop him from getting a NDL place this season Hes in the bracket of to good for nl but not kicked on in cl I can see him missing out on nl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Max was absolutely brilliant in Diamonds colours, he really was the master of Brough. I'm sure if our club hadn't been destroyed by the meat man he'd have been in our line up without question. I really really do hope the likes of Max and Matty can get fixed up somewhere, they were amazing for us and it's a massive shame to see them frozen out of speedway entirely. Having riders such as Joe Alcock, Sam Woolley and Jamie Halder on falsely low averages surely means there could be space for Max and Ben Morley at Kent, I'd love to see it. Edited December 20, 2022 by Diamonds85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come on the Skipper Posted December 20, 2022 Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 4:01 PM, hawks 1975 said: I also rate Ben Trigger, and I wonder whether another of last year's Centurions might be in the frame in Rhys Naylor? Last season was my first season watching live speedway for many years, and this team is based around what I saw How about? 1 Alfie Bowtell 10.67 2 Rhys Naylor 4.52 3 Ben Trigger 6.00 4 Joe Allcock 4.36 5 Ben Morley 9.29 6 Connor King 4.16 7 Chris Watts 3.00 If my averages and maths are correct that totals 42 exactly. A couple of thoughts, if Ben Trigger were to sign I think that he could add a point to his average, he rode really well when he visited. Hopefully Joe has fully recovered from his injuries and can put a couple of points on his average. That, I feel would give the team a bit more strength in depth. However, it's all a guessing game at the moment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawks 1975 Posted December 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2022 Think you could be spot on there, Come On The Skipper, unless Si has got a new three pointer up his sleeve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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