truthsayer Posted July 17, 2023 Report Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tim G said: BSB at Brands Hatch next weekend will definitely be in the top 20 attended sporting events in this country but the media is not interested in motorbike racing. When Carl Fogarty was at his peak drawing massive crowds in WSB he was hardly mentioned in the MSM. Wins a crap celebrity event and they are all over him. BBC News will always show some WSL football match in the round up even though hardly anyone is in the stadium just to come across as inclusive. This weekend, almost certainly yes. But behind cricket and horse racing, and in terms of general interest still behind football. In the football season, a BSB round will be behind all the premiership and championship games and international sports like F1 when it comes to TV audience. Fans attending in person doesn't really matter in a lot of ways, it's all about the overall audience. Touring Cars are also typically more popular than superbikes. Rugby is also ahead in the popularity stakes too, as well as cycling. My point is that it is no conspiracy. Foggy was all over the press when he won a TV show watched by 9 million people. That's 9 million people buying your newspaper or clicking on your website. Foggy did get some mainstream coverage when winning world superbikes, but at peak the audience at Brands Hatch was a claimed 120,000. That's a lot less than 9,000,000. I'm not saying its right, but it is what it is. Speedway either has to pay to be featured in the mainstream media, or else it needs to have a big enough audience to be (commercially) worth their while to cover. Media cover the things they think are popular, because that's what pays the bills. WSL is a bit in the middle though. There is an appetite for women's football, as shown by the world cup viewing figures and the popularity of some of the personalities in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/15/2023 at 6:47 PM, CB252 said: I love that everyone, quite rightly, agrees that Zmarzlik was correctly excluded in heat 3, yet there would be all kinds of outrage going on had the roles been reversed I only had the chance to watch it last night, but my thoughts exactly. Even if the exclusion was technically correct, it was at best an ungentlemanly & dangerous move. Holder knew he was there as they were side by side coming off the corner and while I accept that he had pulled clear, he left Zmarzlik nowhere to go. Lambert in heat 16 was clearly faster on the outside, but if Zmarzlik had pulled that move on him, he would have been slaughtered. Instead, he left Lambert room to race. I guess it's the same as it being "boring" if Zmarzlik is dominating the series, but if it was a Brit dominating the series it would be fantastic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Still wouldn’t have a Kubera or Kurtz in a series instead of a Woffinfen or Madsen….. sure they may have one good meeting like Nilsson recently did but they would be quite clearly at the bottom of the standings which again in my opinion being bottom isn’t an issue as someone has to be … In my opinion Nilsson and Michelsen I would replace with Laguta and Emil and then you would have the worlds best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 29 minutes ago, Gavan said: Still wouldn’t have a Kubera or Kurtz in a series instead of a Woffinfen or Madsen….. sure they may have one good meeting like Nilsson recently did but they would be quite clearly at the bottom of the standings which again in my opinion being bottom isn’t an issue as someone has to be … In my opinion Nilsson and Michelsen I would replace with Laguta and Emil and then you would have the worlds best Woffinden has been allowed to get to the level he has by the fact he's in the GP's despite never having qualified. Madsen was ignored for a number of years while being the top rider in Poland. I've said it before and I'll say it again would Holder & Bewley be at the level they're now at had they not been given the opportunity to ride in the GP's at the expense of the Russians? Or would they still be at the level they were at bumbling about on the cusp? We'll never know of course but just because you're not currently in the GP series doesn't mean you can't raise your game to the level of a GP rider 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Woffinden has been allowed to get to the level he has by the fact he's in the GP's despite never having qualified. Madsen was ignored for a number of years while being the top rider in Poland. I've said it before and I'll say it again would Holder & Bewley be at the level they're now at had they not been given the opportunity to ride in the GP's at the expense of the Russians? Or would they still be at the level they were at bumbling about on the cusp? We'll never know of course but just because you're not currently in the GP series doesn't mean you can't raise your game to the level of a GP rider We will of course see to an extent in Gislaved in August !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Still wouldn’t have a Kubera or Kurtz in a series instead of a Woffinfen or Madsen….. sure they may have one good meeting like Nilsson recently did but they would be quite clearly at the bottom of the standings which again in my opinion being bottom isn’t an issue as someone has to be … In my opinion Nilsson and Michelsen I would replace with Laguta and Emil and then you would have the worlds best Agree 100%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 16 hours ago, AFCB Wildcat said: Lambert in heat 16 was clearly faster on the outside, but if Zmarzlik had pulled that move on him, he would have been slaughtered. Instead, he left Lambert room to race. I guess it's the same as it being "boring" if Zmarzlik is dominating the series, but if it was a Brit dominating the series it would be fantastic! I agree totally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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