Waspman Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Is this proper speedway or borefest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Track isn’t up to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Shockster said: A bit of dirt wouldn't go amiss? it’s a bit slick for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mikebv said: In Speedway, as everyone knows, age doesn't really matter... Bartek could win 10 titles given he won it so young... Dan needs to get himself "an edge"... His gating has improved considerably, so he now needs to maximise that by dominating first turns.. Even if "not quite there".. Too many lasts where he needs to deliver some damage limitation.. The race with Lambert was a classic example of not being ruthless enough.. Lambert would have done it to him.. he has a nice but dim persona. don’t mean that to be insulting but certainly lacks the killer ‘nasty’ instinct Edited June 24, 2023 by chun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: In Speedway, as everyone knows, age doesn't really matter... Bartek could win 10 titles given he won it so young... Dan needs to get himself "an edge"... His gating has improved considerably, so he now needs to maximise that by dominating first turns.. Even if "not quite there".. Too many lasts where he needs to deliver some damage limitation.. The race with Lambert was a classic example of not being ruthless enough.. Lambert would have done it to him.. If he's serious about winning, which up until the last GP, when he was clearly gutted to miss the final, I'm not sure he has been with having the likes of Paco and Ellis in his pit bay. He would probably benefit from having a former Champ in his corner, at times it seems he doesn't realise how good he is and can be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Doyle hasn't had a fall or a warning yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbold Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, chunky said: I was waiting for you to say something, Norman... He's the only one I know the age of without having to look it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, iainb said: If he's serious about winning, which up until the last GP, when he was clearly gutted to miss the final, I'm not sure he has been with having the likes of Paco and Ellis in his pit bay. He would probably benefit from having a former Champ in his corner, at times it seems he doesn't realise how good he is and can be. You can imagine that the rest of the riders really like Dan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, mikebv said: In Speedway, as everyone knows, age doesn't really matter... Bartek could win 10 titles given he won it so young... Dan needs to get himself "an edge"... His gating has improved considerably, so he now needs to maximise that by dominating first turns.. Even if "not quite there".. Too many lasts where he needs to deliver some damage limitation.. The race with Lambert was a classic example of not being ruthless enough.. Lambert would have done it to him.. You forget one thing. You can get good overnight, but you can't get experience ovenight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, norbold said: He's the only one I know the age of without having to look it up! And there I was, thinking you knew everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 need a few more rounds on the clay to sort the men out from the boys. fed up of these slick polish circuits now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, chunky said: You forget one thing. You can get good overnight, but you can't get experience ovenight... Doyley seemed to do exactly that... Dave Norris too was another example who seemed to have a "lightbulb moment" and "suddenly" become a top class rider.. But, riders like that are very, very few far and between, I agree.. Dan has all the talent needed, not sure he has that attitude that means someone needs to get upset with him to win... Woffy had it, but seems to have lost it, which is quite natural given to stay at that Elite level of any sport for so many years is huge.. But when he had that hunger, he was a very tough, single minded competitor.. Dan needs to find that "edge".. Even more so given his unique talent.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Not getting into politics cos I find it seriously boring but from a speedway point of view this series seriously misses Artem and Emil 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frigbo Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 These GP tracks are an utter borefest... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoeW436 said: Not getting into politics cos I find it seriously boring but from a speedway point of view this series seriously misses Artem and Emil If we had them... we probably wouldn't have had Jack & Dan Edited June 24, 2023 by iainb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chun Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 queue around the curb. says it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, frigbo said: These GP tracks are an utter borefest... Tracks that deliver great racing each week in Poland... From many of exactly the same riders.. Become crap when the GP team get involved.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeW436 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, iainb said: If we had them... we probably wouldn't have had Jack & Dan I could reel off 5/6 riders that wouldn’t deserve to be there instead of those two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40-38 Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, frigbo said: These GP tracks are an utter borefest... Ruined this GP being so slick, so many riders who like having a blast and they produce a track like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 minute ago, JoeW436 said: I could reel off 5/6 riders that wouldn’t deserve to be there instead of those two It's a closed shop though isn't it? Jack & Dan would have to have finished top 3 in the GP challenge to qualify and that's almost a lottery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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