Teromaafan Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghosty said: Apparently, Chris Harris will be making a guest appearance for 2 of the promoters that can't make the rearranged fixture! Well he would have been if he hadn’t injured himself laughing at the prospect. Four other promoters are now eligible to take an additional vote to cover his absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 The AGM should be nothing more than a "nodding exercise" given everything would have already been discussed and pretty much agreed.. Danny Ford said as much in that Echo interview didnt he? Gone are the days of the room becoming a "bear pit" where the promoters end up arguing with each other to get across their own agenda.. Hence, all the "leg work" is done during regular meetings during the season.. Therefore. "Strange" that no announcements were forthcoming immediately... Have they put a "deadline" as to when the announcement will need to be made by? One that they can then fail to meet... Wonder if it was the biscuit choices that were the stumbling block... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuvnor Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 While on the surface we can joke about this being a typically Speedway thing, worryingly this slack regard for deadlines is creeping into the sport more and more. The 2021 season overran into November. Once that horse had bolted it then became fine for 2022 to overrun too despite plenty of Speedway free dates in the summer. We’ve now got an AGM overrunning when the entire purpose of the meeting is archaic anyway. The rules and regs should be sorted way in advance and teams can decide where they best fit into that system as opposed to a system that fits a majority of clubs at both levels and the rest then having to slot in where they’re least likely to go bankrupt. If the sport wants to be presented as professional then it has to act that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Maybe it’s to do with new owners at 2 clubs requiring a different league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, stevehone said: Maybe it’s to do with new owners at 2 clubs requiring a different league? Ooooh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, stevehone said: Maybe it’s to do with new owners at 2 clubs requiring a different league? I reckon there will only be one promotion change. And that will be at Peterborough buster wont sell lynn. If he does it will be to Brady and he’s over in Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: I reckon there will only be one promotion change. And that will be at Peterborough buster wont sell lynn. If he does it will be to Brady and he’s over in Australia Sounds like he's sold both already but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, mikebv said: The AGM should be nothing more than a "nodding exercise" given everything would have already been discussed and pretty much agreed.. Danny Ford said as much in that Echo interview didnt he? Gone are the days of the room becoming a "bear pit" where the promoters end up arguing with each other to get across their own agenda.. Hence, all the "leg work" is done during regular meetings during the season.. Therefore. "Strange" that no announcements were forthcoming immediately... Have they put a "deadline" as to when the announcement will need to be made by? One that they can then fail to meet... Wonder if it was the biscuit choices that were the stumbling block... Clearly Danny Ford would have been wise to keep his mouth shut and to have waited for i's and t's to be dotted and crossed. Suggestions , are that issues with PL and CL are completely different ,with a few spanners thrown in works of the latter at the very last minute which have been resolved but which mean significantly different to initial plans, and a logistical issue with the former (PL) which needs to be resolved. Hopefully everyone will have a clearer picture tomorrow. Only in Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) Few things to iron out. 1. Who's going to make the Tea/Coffee. 2. Will the hot drinks be served with Custard Creams or Bourbons. 3. Triple check everything to stop Belle Vue from finding any loopholes again. Edited November 16, 2022 by TTT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodaman Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TheGuvnor said: While on the surface we can joke about this being a typically Speedway thing, worryingly this slack regard for deadlines is creeping into the sport more and more. The 2021 season overran into November. Once that horse had bolted it then became fine for 2022 to overrun too despite plenty of Speedway free dates in the summer. We’ve now got an AGM overrunning when the entire purpose of the meeting is archaic anyway. The rules and regs should be sorted way in advance and teams can decide where they best fit into that system as opposed to a system that fits a majority of clubs at both levels and the rest then having to slot in where they’re least likely to go bankrupt. If the sport wants to be presented as professional then it has to act that way. Leicester finished their league fixtures on July 24th. They did not have plenty of free dates: the only free date for other competitions came later but no other team was prepared to fulfil the fixture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuvnor Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Skodaman said: Leicester finished their league fixtures on July 24th. They did not have plenty of free dates: the only free date for other competitions came later but no other team was prepared to fulfil the fixture. It’s a sport wide issue and a result of bad planning overall. Not just down to Leicester. Edit: This is one of the major flaws of the sport being self governed. Clubs should declare any dates their home stadium is unavailable on their race night for the season then be given a fixture list to adhere to. No fannying about because Rider X is riding in his national championship, that’s the meeting taking place that week end of. The fixture list should contain a few blank weeks to fit in rain offs. The league and cup should be wrapped up by the end of August. September and October can be used for individuals, fillers etc. Edited November 16, 2022 by TheGuvnor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said: I reckon there will only be one promotion change. And that will be at Peterborough buster wont sell lynn. If he does it will be to Brady and he’s over in Australia With the big announcement at Peterborough being delayed from last week , it might not be the club sale that has caused an issue but the agreement with the developers to allow the sport to continue at the showground for a further period as the agreements are now with a different owner of the club But in Lynn's case its possible its already been sorted with Brady before his Australian trip Edited November 16, 2022 by scoobydoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Teromaafan said: So when they reconvene, the meeting room might be prepared differently to the practice session then? That could catch could catch some promoters out and affect their decision making. Some promoters will show the right desire to the new meeting room chosen , whereas some might not put the effort in to get there point across and reach there goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 The shortage of eggs at the pre AGM Wetherspoon Breakfast Bash caused chaos as egg replacement wasn't available. Premiership promoters claimed priority, but were out voted and had to scramble for more bacon. It all made a hash brown of things! The Chairman was blamed for the deal that had given one egg supplier (Hen-ilass) an exclusive supplier agreement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 15 hours ago, Sully said: And the big news from todays AGM is…… nothing…..announcement delayed until Thursday. FFS. Sorry but the way this season panned out it should be taking more than a day for the agm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cheese Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 I'd like to see them shake-up the play-offs to reward the sides that finish higher, it's absurd that they go into them with no advantage over a team that finished in the bottom half. Something like; 1st v 2nd - 1 leg, winner straight to the final 3rd v 4th - 1 leg, loser knocked out Loser of 1st/2nd v winner of 3rd/4th - 1 leg, winner goes to the final Final still to be held over 2 legs Of course that would need the league to be completed first which might prove difficult but the side that finishes top does at least get some reward for doing so. 2nd still have 2 chances to make the final whilst 3rd and 4th have a more difficult route which should be the case in such a small division. It also makes the final league fixtures more relevant rather than the top 4 being pretty much sorted a month in advance with nobody overly bothered where they finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, The Cheese said: I'd like to see them shake-up the play-offs to reward the sides that finish higher, it's absurd that they go into them with no advantage over a team that finished in the bottom half. Something like; 1st v 2nd - 1 leg, winner straight to the final 3rd v 4th - 1 leg, loser knocked out Loser of 1st/2nd v winner of 3rd/4th - 1 leg, winner goes to the final Final still to be held over 2 legs Of course that would need the league to be completed first which might prove difficult but the side that finishes top does at least get some reward for doing so. 2nd still have 2 chances to make the final whilst 3rd and 4th have a more difficult route which should be the case in such a small division. It also makes the final league fixtures more relevant rather than the top 4 being pretty much sorted a month in advance with nobody overly bothered where they finish. If there is 6 teams play offs with four them is still a bit crazy, why not whoever finishes top goes straight through to the final and then 2nd and 3rd have a two legged semi final? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, TTT said: Few things to iron out. 1. Who's going to make the Tea/Coffee. Named scraps of paper will be chucked into a shoe box. If no box is found, Chris Harris will take a guest booking and use his helmet. 2. Will the hot drinks be served with Custard Creams or Bourbons. That will depend on the cut off date. Bourbons until 1pm. Except for Tuesdays and Thursdays. They will be required in Poland. 3. Triple check everything to stop Belle Vue from finding any loopholes again. You have more chance of finding rocking horse sh@t. I filled in the blanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) The majority of the people on this forum moaned about how the 2022 season was run, yet the same faces are moaning that the results of the AGM have been delayed. Good grief...if it takes a couple of days longer to get it right for 2023, it's worth it isn't it? I'd much rather they took their time and improved the product. Whether they actually do improve it is another thing, but give them a chance at least. Moan afterwards if necessary! And personally I'm glad they said there's been a delay, that's already an improvement on keeping everyone completely in the dark for two days. Edited November 16, 2022 by Bojangles 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, stevehone said: Maybe it’s to do with new owners at 2 clubs requiring a different league? Panthers don't want a new league. Tomalin has said they're riding in the premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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