Deano Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Mike0310 said: I wonder if mr. Tolley had anything to say about batchelor being a complete tool the other night. He did. He chose his words carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike0310 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 I bet he did, he does come across as a genuine guy and as much as Birminghams season has been garbage but marginally better than my teams. He doesn’t seem a quitter and he gets decent guests when you need them so fair play to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 As pointed out Ladbrokes (as we know them to keep it simple) are kicking speedway out of Monmore but keeping very lucrative Dogs as they are longstanding Bags track beamed round world. ARC who run Perry Barr and who own Wolverhampton Horse Racing Track are leaving PB and taking that operation to Wolverhampton Horse Racing Track. There ARC will transfer lucrative Bags licence from PB worth 65k a week I was told and run horses and dogs, already have hotel on site. Can't see how PB could run with Speedway only. How long ARC take to set up Wolves Dog track at Horse track will be key. I hope Nigel isn't relying on Regional Mayor Street, a jump on the bandwagon Charlie not a genuine campaigner. Might have more joy out of City Council who put on Commonwealth Games and at least didn't object to speedway returning to PB. If Council goes Tory though forget it, they'll develop anything not tied down by cast iron covenants. CVS seems positive about a Moto Park and Wolverhampton Council seem keen to help. Possibly more accessible land in Wolvo within proximity to M54 Junction by new Jag LR Plant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 heathen52, Perry Barr is owned by National Asset Management Agency, Birmingham CC own the freehold, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not sure why Wolverhampton don’t move to Birmingham for their home meetings. Not very far and Mondays might be available. Could keep Wolves going next season. Planning restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Planning restrictions. Are they planning restrictions based on Speedway and Greyhounds? If so then once the dogs go, surely it would make sense for Wolves to move into PB at least in the short term. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten2502 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Are they planning restrictions based on Speedway and Greyhounds? If so then once the dogs go, surely it would make sense for Wolves to move into PB at least in the short term. Speedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Are they planning restrictions based on Speedway and Greyhounds? If so then once the dogs go, surely it would make sense for Wolves to move into PB at least in the short term. Didn't the BSPA(L) put a stop to teams not riding at their own track a few years back (Cradley at Wolves for one)? Has that stance changed since then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 6 hours ago, heathen52 said: Ladbrokes/Entain own Monmore, ARC (a different group) lease Perry Barr it's ARC that have applied for a new Greyhound track at there own Horse racing Track in Wolvo, Monmore Greyhounds will be continuing at Monmore indeed it is according to the spokesman the injuries caused by Shale on the Greyhound track that the Speedway has been given notice at Monmore, even if the Greyhounds move from Perry Barr to Wolvo the Speedway could still continue at Perry Barr, in actual fact it could be to the Brummies benefit if they continue at PB because if PP is applied for to develop PB the council who own PB may feel duty bound to provide the Brummies with an alternative venue. Sounds familiar,,, although not beyond the realms of possibility, probably outside the laws of probability. Keeping shale off the dog track could be done but, maybe the work involved could be beyond the promotion and (usually) the time and effort from volunteers to carry out a successful job. Who folds first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Are they planning restrictions based on Speedway and Greyhounds? If so then once the dogs go, surely it would make sense for Wolves to move into PB at least in the short term. Speedway only allowed once a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Speedway only allowed once a week. There's going to be so few teams next year than Wolves and Birmingham alternating weeks is probably possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 If the dogs at PB go, then something needs to be done to make the stadium pay. Could a stadium last, entertaining one speedway meeting per week, six or seven months of the year. If the council support keeping the stadium for speedway, surely some of the restrictions need lifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 3, 2023 Report Share Posted September 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Deano said: If the dogs at PB go, then something needs to be done to make the stadium pay. Could a stadium last, entertaining one speedway meeting per week, six or seven months of the year. If the council support keeping the stadium for speedway, surely some of the restrictions need lifting. Probably all down to numbers at the end of the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 I think the way forward would be to 'create' a Midlands Speedway Venue and have B'ham, Cov, Cradley, Wolves, share the facility. It's not an impossible task.... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotonian Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 11 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: There's going to be so few teams next year than Wolves and Birmingham alternating weeks is probably possible... Fine in theory, but rain-offs and re-arranged meetings would cause havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Fine in theory, but rain-offs and re-arranged meetings would cause havoc. There’s not that many Teams left to cause havoc if they are sensible with fixtures.They made pigs ear of fixtures this season for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 55 minutes ago, Sotonian said: Fine in theory, but rain-offs and re-arranged meetings would cause havoc. I think that this would be less of a problem if there was one League and clubs had more freedom to re-arrange fixtures, as opposed to being controlled by fixed race nights? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: I think that this would be less of a problem if there was one League and clubs had more freedom to re-arrange fixtures, as opposed to being controlled by fixed race nights? Fixed race nights don't really exist though, do they? Leicester ran a Premiership Leagues match the other Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, StevePark said: Fixed race nights don't really exist though, do they? Leicester ran a Premiership Leagues match the other Saturday. Well, they do indirectly? by that, I mean, if a club runs from a stadium that they don't own, then they can only race on certain/dictated nights/days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted September 4, 2023 Report Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Well, they do indirectly? by that, I mean, if a club runs from a stadium that they don't own, then they can only race on certain/dictated nights/days. Which means that "dedicated race nights" are a complete fallacy and mean nothing!! I doubt there will be such a thing in 2024 ("dedicated race nights"), as there (probably) won't be enough teams for three leagues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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