King Jamie Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 11 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Pickering is doing all he can to knock Edinburgh from a top 6 spot. @uk_martinbut if Edinburgh miss out on the play-offs that's 4 less meetings for him. Unless of course he guests for Morris in the play-offs for Brummies! Josh has already guested for Birmingham this season. This month in fact. Maybe even more than once? Can't be bothered checking. 11 hours ago, Mr Blobby said: Josh is all talk, his bank account is what actually matters and knocking his own side potentially out the play offs won’t bother him. Perhaps Monarchs fans could take to social media and see if they can force a change of heart, like they did previously (last season?). Or we could just get on with our lives, agree the play offs are Americanised garbage and it would be embarrassing for a team which has been as woeful as ours to even qualify for such a competition. Play offs have gone a long way towards killing the sport in this country. Sadly, those at the top apparently don't think along the same lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 Don't think it matters who guests tonight? Scunthorpe will take their 3rd victory of the season at PB! All of Scunthorpe's riders go well at PB....'Douglas' is nigh-on unbeatable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 12 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am shocked that Pickering is doing all he can to knock Edinburgh from a top 6 spot. @uk_martinbut if Edinburgh miss out on the play-offs that's 4 less meetings for him. Unless of course he guests for Morris in the play-offs for Brummies! Maybe, who knows? My point about the 8-day rule was in response to the suggestion that the Brummies could use a Poole rider as a guest in the second half of a double header where Poole are the first half team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 50 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Don't think it matters who guests tonight? Scunthorpe will take their 3rd victory of the season at PB! All of Scunthorpe's riders go well at PB....'Douglas' is nigh-on unbeatable! You're so negative for a Birmingham fan (I'm assuming) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, uk_martin said: Maybe, who knows? My point about the 8-day rule was in response to the suggestion that the Brummies could use a Poole rider as a guest in the second half of a double header where Poole are the first half team. Logic would suggest they should be allowed to guest in a double header, after riding for your own team, saves travel expenses, better for the environment etc but speedway & logic don't often go together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 37 minutes ago, uk_martin said: Maybe, who knows? My point about the 8-day rule was in response to the suggestion that the Brummies could use a Poole rider as a guest in the second half of a double header where Poole are the first half team. The 8 day rule is only to stop riders guesting twice in a row. Doesn't count when riding for your own team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: You're so negative for a Birmingham fan (I'm assuming) Oh...ok! Didn't know you had to be positive if you're a Birmingham fan...especially when I've seen them win just one in ten of their home matches this season and already been beaten twice by Scunthorpe. I'd expect you to criticize me for stating the obvious and not about my opinion of tonight's match! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen52 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) I am expecting a Brummie win tonight, but there won't be much in it. Edited August 23, 2023 by heathen52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Don't think it matters who guests tonight? Scunthorpe will take their 3rd victory of the season at PB! All of Scunthorpe's riders go well at PB....'Douglas' is nigh-on unbeatable! 3 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Oh...ok! Didn't know you had to be positive if you're a Birmingham fan...especially when I've seen them win just one in ten of their home matches this season and already been beaten twice by Scunthorpe. I'd expect you to criticize me for stating the obvious and not about my opinion of tonight's match! You were only 4 points behind after heat 11 at our place recently with your new team & Douglas can only score max of 15 unless we go more than 6 behind. I can see this being a tight meeting not separated by more than 6 points at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: You were only 4 points behind after heat 11 at our place recently with your new team & Douglas can only score max of 15 unless we go more than 6 behind. I can see this being a tight meeting not separated by more than 6 points at any time. I didn't predict a scoreline....just merely gave my opinion that I think Scunthorpe will win..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Jamie Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 4 hours ago, uk_martin said: Maybe, who knows? My point about the 8-day rule was in response to the suggestion that the Brummies could use a Poole rider as a guest in the second half of a double header where Poole are the first half team. A double header is classed as one meeting. First time I recall the rule coming into play was many moons ago at Rye House. I can't remember the exact details but somebody was injured during the first meeting (I'm guessing it must've been an RH rider). They were allowed to use a guest in the second part of the double header. Obviously choices were somewhat limited (!), so they had to choose a chap from the first opposing side. As has been stated, the rules now give an 'allowance' in relation to riders 'guesting' vs 'riding for your own team' so Birmingham, in theory, could use a Poole rider if their average fits. Edinburgh can do likewise, should such a situation arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, King Jamie said: As has been stated, the rules now give an 'allowance' in relation to riders 'guesting' vs 'riding for your own team' so Birmingham, in theory, could use a Poole rider if their average fits. Edinburgh can do likewise, should such a situation arise. So you could ride at the same track 3 weeks in a row, as a guest - for your own team, then as a guest again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: So you could ride at the same track 3 weeks in a row, as a guest - for your own team, then as a guest again? Could be 4 weeks if there was an individual/Best Pairs meeting that followed...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Could be 4 weeks if there was an individual/Best Pairs meeting that followed...... 5 or 6 weeks in a row, if it was Plymouth or Poole meeting 3 times at the beginning of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, King Jamie said: A double header is classed as one meeting. First time I recall the rule coming into play was many moons ago at Rye House. I can't remember the exact details but somebody was injured during the first meeting (I'm guessing it must've been an RH rider). They were allowed to use a guest in the second part of the double header. Obviously choices were somewhat limited (!), so they had to choose a chap from the first opposing side. As has been stated, the rules now give an 'allowance' in relation to riders 'guesting' vs 'riding for your own team' so Birmingham, in theory, could use a Poole rider if their average fits. Edinburgh can do likewise, should such a situation arise. This has all the hallmarks of a @SpeedwayShambles Special 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 10 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Oh...ok! Didn't know you had to be positive if you're a Birmingham fan...especially when I've seen them win just one in ten of their home matches this season and already been beaten twice by Scunthorpe. I'd expect you to criticize me for stating the obvious and not about my opinion of tonight's match! Based on the first 4 heats, you knew exactly what you were talking about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 I keep expecting Birmingham, Berwick, Edinburgh & Plymouth to eventually show a bit of fight & improve, but it doesn't happen. Even when they try & strengthen up, these 4 teams keep losing, I've never known a season like it. Now Friday at Edinburgh is a must win fixture for Birmingham, but I think they need at least one team change to stand a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I keep expecting Birmingham, Berwick, Edinburgh & Plymouth to eventually show a bit of fight & improve, but it doesn't happen. Even when they try & strengthen up, these 4 teams keep losing, I've never known a season like it. Now Friday at Edinburgh is a must win fixture for Birmingham, but I think they need at least one team change to stand a chance. I guess at least when they meet there will be a winner.......whats the odds on 6 draws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 10 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I keep expecting Birmingham, Berwick, Edinburgh & Plymouth to eventually show a bit of fight & improve, but it doesn't happen. Even when they try & strengthen up, these 4 teams keep losing, I've never known a season like it. Now Friday at Edinburgh is a must win fixture for Birmingham, but I think they need at least one team change to stand a chance. I would say 'at least 5 or 6' ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted August 24, 2023 Report Share Posted August 24, 2023 I see that Glasgow have just signed Vadim Tarasenko on an assessed 5.00 average. Would it have been beyond Birmingham's wit or imagination (or finances) to have made that signing first? Morris and Nielsen need replacing or are we just happy to plod along with guests to the end of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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