phillwhitewasmad Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Deano said: I got the impression from the announcer it only went ahead as the kids just wanted to race. They gave it a good stab as well, unfortunately the constant drizzle and rain finished it off. No tannoy on bend one though, first time I've stood there and you can't hear anything. Lads were not given the option prior to heat one it was photo and get on with it . Two minutes came on and away they went. Personally think it was the wrong decision as the rain was constant the meeting was never going to finish especially on a 20 heat format where riders have back to back races at heat 4 8 12 and 16 . After heat 4 some wanted to continue others didn't but personally think it was right to stop. Think the sport dodged a bad press bullet yesterday if one rider got hurt riding an unfit track the neigh sayers would be having a field day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, GiveusaB said: From B'ham forum...new averages from July 1st gives us 4.78 for a replacement for the injured J.T (out for 6 weeks and not likely to make much of an impact on return, based on previous performances...) Paul Starke on 4.44 ??? I make it 4.73 available for Joe T. Either way Starke has a 4.86 ave so doesn't fit. Is it worth giving Max Clegg a shot, likely to score better at reserve, especially now he has NL racing. Either that or you're looking at giving Jake Turner a go? Edited June 29, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I make it 4.73 available for Joe T. Either way Starke has a 4.86 ave so doesn't fit. Is it worth giving Max Clegg a shot, likely to score better at reserve, especially now he has NL racing. Either that or you're looking at giving Jake Turner a go? If Max Clegg is signed, Joe Thompson could be forgiven for thinking, "You couldn't make this up". Joe was released by Scunthorpe (against their own wishes, if we believe the reports ) in a move that brought Max Clegg into the team. Max was then subsequently released, rather quickly, to bring Drew Kemp into the side. Now you're saying that he's a possible replacement for Joe again. Don't worry Joe. That's racing. Yeh, right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Might be worth trying to coax Ashley Morris back ? (if the average fits?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I make it 4.73 available for Joe T. Either way Starke has a 4.86 ave so doesn't fit. Is it worth giving Max Clegg a shot, likely to score better at reserve, especially now he has NL racing. Either that or you're looking at giving Jake Turner a go? Or, could there be a double change, with both Thompsons being dropped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 9 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Or, could there be a double change, with both Thompsons being dropped? It's about time the young kids got protection from being dropped all the time, then bringing in older journey men who have not made the grade all these seasons!! How about having a rising star at No 7 all year, and a under 24 brit at 6, and another under 24 brit in the team, bit similar to what Poland do 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, Neila said: It's about time the young kids got protection from being dropped all the time, then bringing in older journey men who have not made the grade all these seasons!! How about having a rising star at No 7 all year, and a under 24 brit at 6, and another under 24 brit in the team, bit similar to what Poland do Please can you refrain from talking sense on this forum 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Please can you refrain from talking sense on this forum Many supporters talk sense, but the clowns in charge just Bury their heads in the sand and wonder why the sport is dying on its ar#e 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 14 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Or, could there be a double change, with both Thompsons being dropped? Can't see why they would look to replace Dan, he's hardly ridden a match for Birmingham, so not had much of a chance to prove himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Can't see why they would look to replace Dan, he's hardly ridden a match for Birmingham, so not had much of a chance to prove himself. Not saying it's something I'd do/agree with, but just looking at options and if there's not a suitable replacement for J.T, then the manager would have no choice but to look at other avenues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 If they were to replace Dan, it would be to fit in a rider (who?) with a higher average. But then they would have to replace Joe with a lower average: but they already have one 2-point rider (Sam Hagon), which wouldn't work. Dan at least deserves a good run in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 I might be wrong but didnt Dan only join on a 28 day contract originally so would be free to sign for someone else when that 28 days is up? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Personally I'd go with Max Clegg, as he showed at Leicester last year his scoring picked up when he dropped to reserve, which could even lead to Bowtell or Dan dropping to reserve. Especially as they have an away match at Edinburgh to re-arrange. If he doesn't improve on his Scunny form, bring back in Joe T (in time for Berwick away - where Clegg would score a 0). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Clegg rides well at PB....but I'd go with Starke if he fits. I'd like to see Dan given a chance, but he's a Championship reserve at best, atm..... IMO! Not sure I can see J.T coming back in to the team....he doesn't quite have it....I think Hagon is a stronger prospect (more bottle...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BenMoran Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 If the Thompson’s were both taken out of the team and another 2.00 rider brought in (weakens reserves I know) what average would be left for a new rider in the top 5? Got to be around the 8 point mark? That could open up some doors surely to go for a really top heavy side to compensate for 2 x 2.00 at reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, 4BM said: If the Thompson’s were both taken out of the team and another 2.00 rider brought in (weakens reserves I know) what average would be left for a new rider in the top 5? Got to be around the 8 point mark? That could open up some doors surely to go for a really top heavy side to compensate for 2 x 2.00 at reserve Not sure exactly...but approx 7.5 I think ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, 4BM said: If the Thompson’s were both taken out of the team and another 2.00 rider brought in (weakens reserves I know) what average would be left for a new rider in the top 5? Got to be around the 8 point mark? That could open up some doors surely to go for a really top heavy side to compensate for 2 x 2.00 at reserve But from what I'm reading Birmingham are struggling to get a crowd and lost money last year who is gonna pay for a 7.5 rider ?? The team was built to a budget to survive, now due to fans not supporting the team, now appears some supporters want to break the bank again !! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Neila said: But from what I'm reading Birmingham are struggling to get a crowd and lost money last year who is gonna pay for a 7.5 rider ?? The team was built to a budget to survive, now due to fans not supporting the team, now appears some supporters want to break the bank again !! 3 hours ago, Neila said: But from what I'm reading Birmingham are struggling to get a crowd and lost money last year who is gonna pay for a 7.5 rider ?? The team was built to a budget to survive, now due to fans not supporting the team, now appears some supporters want to break the bank again !! Think to budget will be well shot after signing Batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Neila said: But from what I'm reading Birmingham are struggling to get a crowd and lost money last year who is gonna pay for a 7.5 rider ?? The team was built to a budget to survive, now due to fans not supporting the team, now appears some supporters want to break the bank again !! When I have been to Birmingham, it was noticeable how large a percentage of the crowd "wore the club shop".. Not large crowds in total, granted.. But it does suggest that a losing team could impact attendances quite a bit % wise if those fans in particular became disillusioned.... Many tracks have a fair % of fans who can just go along to watch the racing which can help them during a poor run of performances, as they turn up anyway.. It was also noticeable the age demographic of those in attendance proudly wearing their yellow and red, and, sadly, there will be other reasons as to their less regular visits too I would think as the years have gone by and continue to do so.. Certainly the "oldest" crowd I have seen at Speedway... Although a few will run them close.... It does certainly seem like it has been a "hard sell" for all Birmingham Promoters after the "honeymoon period" ended after a few years of their return.. You cannot knock those currently in charge for their efforts though can you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toady Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure exactly...but approx 7.5 I think ? There is no harm in ambition but the changes that have to paid for and you fans need to support the promotion and team before it’s to. Late imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.