szkocjasid Posted June 11, 2023 Report Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, The H Man said: Back to Brummies. Following on from Saturday’s Press Release, more news out in the morning. Hope they've managed to strengthen up, not expecting them to suddenly change into a winning team, but at least to reach 40 at home & 30 away would be an improvement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) Rogers steps down due to health. Stewart Dickson in as team manager. Rogers stays with club. Edited June 12, 2023 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 On 6/8/2023 at 9:30 PM, lisa-colette said: It's June now so Tate Z might be allowed to ride soon by the doctors? Wonder if he will come over? Wondering why somebody laughed at this suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Rogers steps down due to health. Stewart Dickson in as team manager. Rogers stays with club. Nothing more important than someone's health. Hope Rogers is okay. There you go @GiveusaB different TM. No excuses now! 9 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Wondering why somebody laughed at this suggestion? If it's Skidder I prob getting close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandred Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 21 hours ago, the hobbit said: last weeks debacle in heat five last Wednesday snd his ridiculous attempts to justify his actions, were the last straw for me. He’s absolutely clueless What occurred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Rogers steps down due to health. Stewart Dickson in as team manager. Rogers stays with club. Hope Rogers isn't too bad & recovers sharpish. But best keep Dickson in the role for the season regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 21 hours ago, the hobbit said: last weeks debacle in heat five last Wednesday snd his ridiculous attempts to justify his actions, were the last straw for me. He’s absolutely clueless 3 minutes ago, midlandred said: What occurred? Used Sedgmen for a tac sub against leagues top rider Sam Masters in a heat where he could've been the r/r. Sedgmen had fallen in the previous heat, so there was no evidence he should've got the extra ride over Nick Morris! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Nothing more important than someone's health. Hope Rogers is okay. There you go @GiveusaB different TM. No excuses now! If it's Skidder I prob getting close Excuses for what ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 Now that Lawrence Rogers has stepped down, will all those on here, who wanted him replaced, do likewise from this forum if results don't instantly improve? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 I mean Stewart is a good TM but he doesn't have a magic wand. We had plenty terrible teams in his time at Glasgow that he didn't motivate them to be anything other than they were... Poor. And some of those included 2 top riders in parker and stancl! I'm sure he'll get nick going again as has worked with him since he was 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, midlandred said: What occurred? He used sedgemen as a tac sub in the rider rep spot in heat 5 sedgemrn could have ridden as the rider rep when sedgemen had fallen off on the second bend of his first ride. Should have used Morris ad the rider rep, thus keeping sedgemen for a rider rep ride later in the meeting. This would then have meant you could cover the rider rep rides with Morris sedgemen, Bowtell snd mountain, snd not use the reserves who were way, way off the pace then came out with a ridiculous story to justify his actions which only served to make him look even dafter it would have also preserved the tac sub tide ( which were obviously going to be able to use later), thus giving Morris or maybe sedgemen another extra ride for the first time ever, the match report on the official club website called him out over this and was clearly critical. That says it all !!! Never seen that before and I’ve been a fan sine the 70’s Edited June 12, 2023 by the hobbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 Wish Laurence a speedy recovery. I know he was in agony with hips b4 an operation a couple of years ago and I think had a heart scare some years back. Keyboard warriors see occasional team manager issues. They don't see countless hours paperwork and organising as Promoter. Masons used to rely on him massively due to geography and Tolley has a business to run. Laurence does 7 days a week and a job not just racedays. Stuart won't come cheap that's for sure. Hopefully ha can kick Morris up his backside and Sedgeman and Thompson family trust him to get best out of their lads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, uk_martin said: Now that Lawrence Rogers has stepped down, will all those on here, who wanted him replaced, do likewise from this forum if results don't instantly improve? What a strange take. He clearly made some odd decisions (especially Sedgmen), and can therefore see why some Birmingham fans were asking for him to be replaced. Those strange decisions didn't cost Birmingham matches, but they certainly didn't help either. Results aren't going to instantly improve, but every little helps, no? Some time out will probably do Rogers some good as well, and I hope he makes a swift recovery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 It’s an excellent appointment for the brummies. Best wishes to Laurence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted June 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, HGould said: Stuart won't come cheap that's for sure. Hopefully he can kick Morris up his backside and Sedgeman and Thompson family trust him to get best out of their lads. Badly needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandred Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, HGould said: Wish Laurence a speedy recovery. I know he was in agony with hips b4 an operation a couple of years ago and I think had a heart scare some years back. Keyboard warriors see occasional team manager issues. They don't see countless hours paperwork and organising as Promoter. Masons used to rely on him massively due to geography and Tolley has a business to run. Laurence does 7 days a week and a job not just racedays. Stuart won't come cheap that's for sure. Hopefully ha can kick Morris up his backside and Sedgeman and Thompson family trust him to get best out of their lads. Saw him recently at the Grasstrack at Dalton Barracks, handing out Brummies leaflets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 Having worked reasonably closely with Laurence for nearly a decade, the work he does for a club behind the scenes is nothing short of staggering. Yes, he'll get things wrong occasionally but I don't see anyone banging the door down to step into his shoes and do it better. Like Vatcher, one of the most loyal and undervalued men in speedway. Fair play to Tolley for trying to keep the fans happy but it feels like the tail is wagging the dog.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 Good luck to stewart, hard to make a silk purse out of a sows ear tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, the hobbit said: He used sedgemen as a tac sub in the rider rep spot in heat 5 sedgemrn could have ridden as the rider rep when sedgemen had fallen off on the second bend of his first ride. Should have used Morris ad the rider rep, thus keeping sedgemen for a rider rep ride later in the meeting. This would then have meant you could cover the rider rep rides with Morris sedgemen, Bowtell snd mountain, snd not use the reserves who were way, way off the pace then came out with a ridiculous story to justify his actions which only served to make him look even dafter it would have also preserved the tac sub tide ( which were obviously going to be able to use later), thus giving Morris or maybe sedgemen another extra ride for the first time ever, the match report on the official club website called him out over this and was clearly critical. That says it all !!! Never seen that before and I’ve been a fan sine the 70’s The problem with this analysis is Morris wasn't eligible to take a rider replacement ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hobbit Posted June 12, 2023 Report Share Posted June 12, 2023 No one expects results to magic improve overnight with this current team but, at least the team manager won’t be making s bad situation worse, now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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