StephenMiller Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 20 hours ago, GiveusaB said: So, D.T out for our next 2 matches...guessing no guest facility as he hasn't rode for us yet ? Therefore....suggest we use a guest for James Wright and R/R for D.T. No mention of this on the club website, what's happened ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, StephenMiller said: No mention of this on the club website, what's happened ? Got concussion in Peterborough Vs Leicester on Mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Who's wondering ??? Yes, you're quite right about explaining rules etc....(or trying....) But, I don't think a newcomer will give a monkey's about rules/regs, if they haven't seen, or been to a meeting before, then one would assume that they'll revel in the speed/skill of the riders? As for Wright? I agree, not being on the pace isn't a valid reason for not being fit, but it is definitely a worthy excuse...he could be suffering...we are going to be desperate Friday and next Wednesday, so it would make sense to use the rules to some advantage.....a guest for Wright and R/R for D.T is the only option unless we sign a 'quality' replacement for Wright? Not sure who's out there apart from Mathew Whethers. or Drew Kemp ? I've been critical of the Managers signings/tactics, but He definitely knows the rules/regs and I'm hoping he'll come up with something...... Signed for Scunthorpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Who's wondering ??? Yes, you're quite right about explaining rules etc....(or trying....) But, I don't think a newcomer will give a monkey's about rules/regs, if they haven't seen, or been to a meeting before, then one would assume that they'll revel in the speed/skill of the riders? As for Wright? I agree, not being on the pace isn't a valid reason for not being fit, but it is definitely a worthy excuse...he could be suffering...we are going to be desperate Friday and next Wednesday, so it would make sense to use the rules to some advantage.....a guest for Wright and R/R for D.T is the only option unless we sign a 'quality' replacement for Wright? Not sure who's out there apart from Mathew Whethers. or Drew Kemp ? I've been critical of the Managers signings/tactics, but He definitely knows the rules/regs and I'm hoping he'll come up with something...... The newbies I’ve been bringing for a few months now have started asking questions. One 14 year old asked “why do some riders ride for us one week, then for the other team the other weeks?” It really does feel like one or two riders have done that at PB this season so far. I haven’t checked but a youngster has picked up on something . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 If Wright rode & struggled because he wasn't fit yet, then the blame must surely go in the shoulders of the promotion for not replacing him? Dan T was available for the first match, even just as a temporary replacement for Wright. Had they done that, they wouldn't have needed Wright to attempt to ride when not fit! Ow Paul Starke has been dropped is he worth a shot in place of Weight / Dan T / Nielsen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenMiller Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I Ow Paul Starke has been dropped is he worth a shot in place of Weight / Dan T / Nielsen? Starke usually rides Perry Barr very well, so probably would be if his average fitted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shhalewhhale Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 hours ago, StephenMiller said: No mention of this on the club website, what's happened ? Dan made a close inspection of the fence at Peterborough and was withdrawn from the meeting due to concussion protocols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 Get well soon Dan. Brummies need you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted May 31, 2023 Report Share Posted May 31, 2023 8 hours ago, GiveusaB said: .....a guest for Wright and R/R for D.T is the only option... Last I saw, R/R and Guests come under the heading of "facilities". To be eligible for a facility, you need to have ridden for the team. So, no facility (R/R or otherwise) for Thompson. The second qualifier for a facility is that you have to be medically unfit. We are now 2 weeks past the point when Wright was declared FIT to ride, and was fit enough to score 4 points. So that's him out of that facility reckoning. The third qualifier is that a rider withholds his services, incurring a 28-day ban. What you are suggesting is that the Brummies sink to Poole's level (which we are unanimously in awe of, aren't we?) and essentially cheat. You are suggesting that LR bends or breaks the truth, or persuades Wright to either feign an injury / reaction to injury, or to enter into a dispute that will lead to him walking out on the club, just to fiddle a facility for the sake of not losing by as many as we are going to lose by at Glasgow anyway. Well, if that's the way forward, then don't expect to retain any fans with any sense of dignity on the terraces. But as you have said that you are not attending for as long as LR is team manager, you won't notice the difference, will you? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 Stefan neilson has been re - declared in the 1 to 7 so that RR can be used. 2 weeks on and Wright will be fitter than he was against Edinburgh. Who's confused? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 13 hours ago, uk_martin said: Last I saw, R/R and Guests come under the heading of "facilities". To be eligible for a facility, you need to have ridden for the team. So, no facility (R/R or otherwise) for Thompson. The second qualifier for a facility is that you have to be medically unfit. We are now 2 weeks past the point when Wright was declared FIT to ride, and was fit enough to score 4 points. So that's him out of that facility reckoning. The third qualifier is that a rider withholds his services, incurring a 28-day ban. What you are suggesting is that the Brummies sink to Poole's level (which we are unanimously in awe of, aren't we?) and essentially cheat. You are suggesting that LR bends or breaks the truth, or persuades Wright to either feign an injury / reaction to injury, or to enter into a dispute that will lead to him walking out on the club, just to fiddle a facility for the sake of not losing by as many as we are going to lose by at Glasgow anyway. Well, if that's the way forward, then don't expect to retain any fans with any sense of dignity on the terraces. But as you have said that you are not attending for as long as LR is team manager, you won't notice the difference, will you? I think you've been drinking too much Holy water ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 20 hours ago, Petecc said: Stefan neilson has been re - declared in the 1 to 7 so that RR can be used. 2 weeks on and Wright will be fitter than he was against Edinburgh. Who's confused? I don't think confused covers it. In what other sport can you declare a team that doesn't stand a chance of taking to the track? In particular Nielsen. Nielsen was dropped. Now his name is being taken in vain, in order to get a facility. That's pulling the wool over the fans' eyes. And the rules allow for it. How does all this crap work? What's in it for Nielsen? As soon as Thompson is fit, he'll be out again, and at risk of being unemployed if Thompson rides to his potential. And how do the BSPZzz allow for a rider who is medically unfit be introduced as part of a redeclared team? Surely one of the rules that HAS to be looked at, is that only riders fit and able to ride should be part of a redeclared team. And the sooner the better, Well done Laurence Rogers for exposing yet another set of rules that makes a mockery out of the sport. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 14 hours ago, uk_martin said: I don't think confused covers it. In what other sport can you declare a team that doesn't stand a chance of taking to the track? In particular Nielsen. Nielsen was dropped. Now his name is being taken in vain, in order to get a facility. That's pulling the wool over the fans' eyes. And the rules allow for it. How does all this crap work? What's in it for Nielsen? As soon as Thompson is fit, he'll be out again, and at risk of being unemployed if Thompson rides to his potential. And how do the BSPZzz allow for a rider who is medically unfit be introduced as part of a redeclared team? Surely one of the rules that HAS to be looked at, is that only riders fit and able to ride should be part of a redeclared team. And the sooner the better, Well done Laurence Rogers for exposing yet another set of rules that makes a mockery out of the sport. What about a rule that stops clubs signing a rider who is medically unfit to ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 17 hours ago, uk_martin said: I don't think confused covers it. In what other sport can you declare a team that doesn't stand a chance of taking to the track? In particular Nielsen. Nielsen was dropped. Now his name is being taken in vain, in order to get a facility. That's pulling the wool over the fans' eyes. And the rules allow for it. How does all this crap work? What's in it for Nielsen? As soon as Thompson is fit, he'll be out again, and at risk of being unemployed if Thompson rides to his potential. And how do the BSPZzz allow for a rider who is medically unfit be introduced as part of a redeclared team? Surely one of the rules that HAS to be looked at, is that only riders fit and able to ride should be part of a redeclared team. And the sooner the better, Well done Laurence Rogers for exposing yet another set of rules that makes a mockery out of the sport. Surely using a guests or r/r for a rider who got injured racing for you (Nielsen) is better than a guest fir a rider who has never ridden for you (Dan T)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 19 hours ago, uk_martin said: I don't think confused covers it. In what other sport can you declare a team that doesn't stand a chance of taking to the track? In particular Nielsen. Nielsen was dropped. Now his name is being taken in vain, in order to get a facility. That's pulling the wool over the fans' eyes. And the rules allow for it. How does all this crap work? What's in it for Nielsen? As soon as Thompson is fit, he'll be out again, and at risk of being unemployed if Thompson rides to his potential. And how do the BSPZzz allow for a rider who is medically unfit be introduced as part of a redeclared team? Surely one of the rules that HAS to be looked at, is that only riders fit and able to ride should be part of a redeclared team. And the sooner the better, Well done Laurence Rogers for exposing yet another set of rules that makes a mockery out of the sport. Any thing controversial you just use “ In the best interest of the Sport rule “ no arguments.It’s handy at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 23 hours ago, uk_martin said: I don't think confused covers it. In what other sport can you declare a team that doesn't stand a chance of taking to the track? In particular Nielsen. Nielsen was dropped. Now his name is being taken in vain, in order to get a facility. That's pulling the wool over the fans' eyes. And the rules allow for it. How does all this crap work? What's in it for Nielsen? As soon as Thompson is fit, he'll be out again, and at risk of being unemployed if Thompson rides to his potential. And how do the BSPZzz allow for a rider who is medically unfit be introduced as part of a redeclared team? Surely one of the rules that HAS to be looked at, is that only riders fit and able to ride should be part of a redeclared team. And the sooner the better, Well done Laurence Rogers for exposing yet another set of rules that makes a mockery out of the sport. I'm not sure what it is you are expecting. The rules used are the rules agreed at the agm. If you can think of a better way to resolve the current problems with the rules please clarify. I agree there must be a better way but I can't think of one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 What's the odds on Paco guesting on Wednesday in place of Wright ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Cheetah Snr Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 Could anybody tell me how easy it is to park at Birmingham now please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, Silver Cheetah Snr said: Could anybody tell me how easy it is to park at Birmingham now please How good a driver are you.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brummies_Ste Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Silver Cheetah Snr said: Could anybody tell me how easy it is to park at Birmingham now please All the info is on the Brummies main site. Dont park at the one stop shopping centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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