Aries Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Wee Eck said: And they were right then - will they be right this time as well? I’ll admit it’s a signing that’s surprised me, and it’s definitely a gamble. But then, in my view, less of a gamble than Manzares. Disagree personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Ghosty said: Proctor is a big gamble for sure, could bomb as his per his last few "comebacks" or just as likely turn out a 7 to 8 point average with the right "mindset". Pun intended? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Petecc said: Pun intended? I'm sure it'll all come out in the wash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Been a long while since I've seen Proctor at Perry Barr but he was very useful back in the days of Jason Lyons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dog Posted March 11, 2023 Report Share Posted March 11, 2023 Tbh, your never going to get a worldbeater this late in the day and on this sort of average but it could be a lot worse than Proctor. Get behind the lad at least! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 6:27 PM, The Dog said: Tbh, your never going to get a worldbeater this late in the day and on this sort of average but it could be a lot worse than Proctor. Get behind the lad at least! Or at least that's what we'll be saying to the opposition at each meeting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) For an alternative opinion of Birmingham's strength I'm gonna compare them to Edinburgh. Now Edinburgh reached the semis last year & have only slightly weakened from a 42 to a 40 limit, Cook for Masters & Bickley for Sarjeant - so you could say that's a sensible team to guage yourself against if you wanna reach the play-offs! Top 2: Morris & Sedgmen vs Pickering & Cook. Edinburgh a little stronger (Birmingham have the strongest & weakest) Second strings: Nielsen & Bowtell vs Castagna & Fredriksen, similar strength (Edinburgh have the strongest & weakest) Reserves: Proctor & Pearson vs Hook & Bickley, I'd say Birmingham edge this. Biggest difference between the teams is the 3rd heat leader Wright vs Thomson where Edinburgh are definitely stronger. So if Birmingham are not much weaker than last year's top 4 side, they must be strong enough to challenge for a top 6 spot this year right? Edited March 13, 2023 by szkocjasid Spacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: For an alternative opinion of Birmingham's strength I'm gonna compare them to Edinburgh. Now Edinburgh reached the semis last year & have only slightly weakened from a 42 to a 40 limit, Cook for Masters & Bickley for Sarjeant - so you could say that's a sensible team to guage yourself against if you wanna reach the play-offs! Top 2: Morris & Sedgmen vs Pickering & Cook. Edinburgh a little stronger (Birmingham have the strongest & weakest) Second strings: Nielsen & Bowtell vs Castagna & Fredriksen, similar strength (Edinburgh have the strongest & weakest) Reserves: Proctor & Pearson vs Hook & Bickley, I'd say Birmingham edge this. Biggest difference between the teams is the 3rd heat leader Wright vs Thomson where Edinburgh are definitely stronger. So if Birmingham are not much weaker than last year's top 4 side, they must be strong enough to challenge for a top 6 spot this year right? Hmm, how about a comparison with Oxfords team this season. That would be quite interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Hmm, how about a comparison with Oxfords team this season. That would be quite interesting! Harder to compare as they are built more differently, Oxford obviously stronger at the top, but weaker at the bottom. I figured Edinburgh were the closest match to Birmingham for how they built their teams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, szkocjasid said: For an alternative opinion of Birmingham's strength I'm gonna compare them to Edinburgh. Now Edinburgh reached the semis last year & have only slightly weakened from a 42 to a 40 limit, Cook for Masters & Bickley for Sarjeant - so you could say that's a sensible team to guage yourself against if you wanna reach the play-offs! Top 2: Morris & Sedgmen vs Pickering & Cook. Edinburgh a little stronger (Birmingham have the strongest & weakest) Second strings: Nielsen & Bowtell vs Castagna & Fredriksen, similar strength (Edinburgh have the strongest & weakest) Reserves: Proctor & Pearson vs Hook & Bickley, I'd say Birmingham edge this. Biggest difference between the teams is the 3rd heat leader Wright vs Thomson where Edinburgh are definitely stronger. So if Birmingham are not much weaker than last year's top 4 side, they must be strong enough to challenge for a top 6 spot this year right? Not sure you can compare B'ham reaching top 6 this season, when most other teams are different compared to last season ? Your pitching this seasons team selection against 'other' teams last season selection ? (apart from Edinburgh of course....) Edited March 14, 2023 by GiveusaB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 11 hours ago, GiveusaB said: Not sure you can compare B'ham reaching top 6 this season, when most other teams are different compared to last season ? Your pitching this seasons team selection against 'other' teams last season selection ? (apart from Edinburgh of course....) With the points limit reduced, most teams should be weaker, so I'm suggesting Edinburgh with minimal changes shouldn't do any worse than last year! Are Birmingham are a similar strength to Edinburgh? If so can be chasing a play-off spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, szkocjasid said: With the points limit reduced, most teams should be weaker, so I'm suggesting Edinburgh with minimal changes shouldn't do any worse than last year! Are Birmingham are a similar strength to Edinburgh? If so can be chasing a play-off spot! Okay, so if Brum finish 6th which 3 teams will finish below them? I think that is why they are predicted bottom, everyone thinks everyone else is stronger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted March 14, 2023 Report Share Posted March 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Okay, so if Brum finish 6th which 3 teams will finish below them? I think that is why they are predicted bottom, everyone thinks everyone else is stronger! I can't see 3 teams finishing below Birmingham, I'm just trying to find ways for Brummies fans to be positive about the new season, but it's not easy lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I can't see 3 teams finishing below Birmingham, I'm just trying to find ways for Brummies fans to be positive about the new season, but it's not easy lol! Are you the new PR for B'ham then ? I would have thought that 'simply' existing is the most positive outcome that B'ham fans could have? It's attracting 'new' fans that's the problem.... The main problem of having a weak team (IMO) is that it's less appealing for a neutral/(or fan from another team) to come to Perry Barr on the odd occasion. From a team perspective...we have got a very solid number 1 and a very solid reserve in Proctor (if he lasts....) I think we'll hold our own at home, which in-turn will encourage the afore mentioned 'neutral/s' to come and see some decent/competitive racing every now and then. After all, who wants to see teams 'slayed' every week? boring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: The main problem of having a weak team (IMO) is that it's less appealing for a neutral/(or fan from another team) to come to Perry Barr on the odd occasion. I'd say the exact opposite. I'd much rather go to Birmingham v (say) Redcar - match that could go either way; than Poole v Berwick ( which looks like a home banker). As a rule home defeats are not good for business. While the Brummie team looks weak away, it might just be competitive at home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted March 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: After all, who wants to see teams 'slayed' every week? boring! 'Slain' ... I always enjoyed a good massacre, just once in a while! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, arnieg said: I'd say the exact opposite. I'd much rather go to Birmingham v (say) Redcar - match that could go either way; than Poole v Berwick ( which looks like a home banker). As a rule home defeats are not good for business. While the Brummie team looks weak away, it might just be competitive at home. ....isn't nearly every Poole (home) match a banker ? (well...sounds like 'banker' ?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, *JJ said: 'Slain' ... I always enjoyed a good massacre, just once in a while! I can't remember the last time I went to a B'ham home match knowing/expecting to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Winning or losing is the end product of a entertaining evening. You can have both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Petecc said: Winning or losing is the end product of a entertaining evening. You can have both? ...and usually do...at Poole! Always a good night win or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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