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3 minutes ago, kitten2502 said:

You are incorrect - the phrase "home loss" is correct if you check the fixtures/results section on the official site.

No you are incorrect. Birmingham did not lose 56-34  last week or against Edinburgh. I note it has been corrected in the media release.

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13 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

The manager ! Replace him before any team changes! Cmon... its bloody obvious!

No it isn't. Anyone who thinks that this will solve everything is deceiving themselves.

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1 hour ago, *JJ said:

No it isn't. Anyone who thinks that this will solve everything is deceiving themselves.

No, it won’t with this particular team but as they say, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys if you pay nothing, you get Laurence rogers 

Replacing rogers would give more leadership snd reduce the points thrown away by inept team management thus lessening our current thrashing’s to hopefully something approaching respectability 

last weeks debacle in heat five last Wednesday snd his ridiculous attempts to justify his actions, were the last straw for me. He’s absolutely clueless 

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I take my hat off to mr Tolley at least he realises a shake up needs to be made not like my team birminghams results are no worse than ours but I bet they make more changes before we do, lack of riders is always the reason cited, other teams manage to put teams good teams together for me Kyle howarth got it spot on the fixture list is a joke not enough meetings between now and the middle of August my team Plymouth have 4 meetings at home left season over absolute joke.

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29 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

I take my hat off to mr Tolley at least he realises a shake up needs to be made not like my team birminghams results are no worse than ours but I bet they make more changes before we do, lack of riders is always the reason cited, other teams manage to put teams good teams together for me Kyle howarth got it spot on the fixture list is a joke not enough meetings between now and the middle of August my team Plymouth have 4 meetings at home left season over absolute joke.

You and Kyle need to talk to the teams who got away with the 2H and 2A. 

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9 hours ago, Mike0310 said:

I take my hat off to mr Tolley at least he realises a shake up needs to be made not like my team birminghams results are no worse than ours but I bet they make more changes before we do, lack of riders is always the reason cited, other teams manage to put teams good teams together for me Kyle howarth got it spot on the fixture list is a joke not enough meetings between now and the middle of August my team Plymouth have 4 meetings at home left season over absolute joke.

Spot on, not only does he understand the club's and fans situation but tells it as it is in public. He and his co-directors need all the support they can muster.

As for Kyle's viewpoint I guess any club with a strong top 3 that gets knocked out of the 2 early season competitions will only have League meetings and possible play-offs left.  Its not as if he didn't know of the possible number of fixtures when he signed up - its almost identical to last season.

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35 minutes ago, Mike0310 said:

I take my hat off to mr Tolley at least he realises a shake up needs to be made not like my team birminghams results are no worse than ours but I bet they make more changes before we do, lack of riders is always the reason cited, other teams manage to put teams good teams together for me Kyle howarth got it spot on the fixture list is a joke not enough meetings between now and the middle of August my team Plymouth have 4 meetings at home left season over absolute joke.

We are very grateful to Nigel Tolley and before him the Masons for keeping Brummies alive against mounting odds and big losses. 

Your one man moaning vendetta though against Mark Phillips is OTT

I've not seen Nigel driving a tractor or preparing the track. Nor Dave and Peter Mason Not seen them rebuilding completely new Stands, put in new lighting, drag a struggling NDL team up to the CL and recruit the likes of Crump, Anderson, Palm Toft and others to try to make it work

Perry Barr is in the middle of everywhere, Plymouth is on a never ending road to almost no where. 

Mark Phillips deserves great credit, not your constant moaning. 

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3 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

Spot on, not only does he understand the club's and fans situation but tells it as it is in public. He and his co-directors need all the support they can muster.

He does but I do worry for the impact on his own business. 

He deserves really a stadium of his own to build and develop. 

No one deserves the owners we have to deal with. 

Fair play to Nigel Brummies fans know a trier when they see one and like the Masons he'll get thanks and respect for his efforts

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11 minutes ago, HGould said:

He does but I do worry for the impact on his own business. 

He deserves really a stadium of his own to build and develop. 

No one deserves the owners we have to deal with. 

Fair play to Nigel Brummies fans know a trier when they see one and like the Masons he'll get thanks and respect for his efforts

Maybe like Mark Phillips he should give Matt Ford a call to ask him to help with any of the riders on Poole's asset list??! or any of Matt's many other speedway contacts.:t:

They all need a little help from their friends - occasionally!;)

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1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Maybe like Mark Phillips he should give Matt Ford a call to ask him to help with any of the riders on Poole's asset list??! or any of Matt's many other speedway contacts.:t:

They all need a little help from their friends - occasionally!;)

We were way to hasty in ditching Newman in 2019 that's for sure. 

I think Keleher would have done a job for us too last year and this. 

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2 hours ago, Mike0310 said:

I take my hat off to mr Tolley at least he realises a shake up needs to be made not like my team birminghams results are no worse than ours but I bet they make more changes before we do, lack of riders is always the reason cited, other teams manage to put teams good teams together for me Kyle howarth got it spot on the fixture list is a joke not enough meetings between now and the middle of August my team Plymouth have 4 meetings at home left season over absolute joke.

Completely agree re the fixture list, it's a farce. Simply not enough meetings, I don't see how any team can make any real money from such few home fixtures and they wonder why clubs are going to the wall. 

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2 hours ago, Skidder1 said:

Maybe like Mark Phillips he should give Matt Ford a call to ask him to help with any of the riders on Poole's asset list??! or any of Matt's many other speedway contacts.:t:

They all need a little help from their friends - occasionally!;)

Think matt ford has had enough business promlems himself in the last 5yrs without worrying about other speedway promotions,pleased he announced that hopefully a couple years be out french hotel business 

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7 hours ago, *JJ said:

No it isn't. Anyone who thinks that this will solve everything is deceiving themselves.

There was a very good reason the vast majority had Brum bottom of the league in the predictions...

And it wasnt the manager . 

The only way tactically he could make a difference is if Brum were the only team allowed to ride for double points using a black and white helmet colour..

In every heat...:D.

A classic example, like Newcastle and Eastbourne, of a club with an NDL crowd level masquerading as a CL team..

Is it promoter ego that does such things? 

You are where you are in the pecking order, because of what level you actually are at...

Zero point in being something you are not..

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5 hours ago, HGould said:

We are very grateful to Nigel Tolley and before him the Masons for keeping Brummies alive against mounting odds and big losses. 

Your one man moaning vendetta though against Mark Phillips is OTT

I've not seen Nigel driving a tractor or preparing the track. Nor Dave and Peter Mason Not seen them rebuilding completely new Stands, put in new lighting, drag a struggling NDL team up to the CL and recruit the likes of Crump, Anderson, Palm Toft and others to try to make it work

Perry Barr is in the middle of everywhere, Plymouth is on a never ending road to almost no where. 

Mark Phillips deserves great credit, not your constant moaning. 

Ok I’ll put it another way, the natives are getting restless I’m hearing more and more negative comments every week. And there are a lot more empty spaces in the stadium of course I want the club to succeed there my club . But this year more than any other is the first time I have been worried about its future maybe the financial climate we are in people part with there hard earned money want to be entertained and feel the only entertainment is being provided by the opposition. We have one of the strongest heat leader trios on paper and we go to Poole and concede nine (nine) 5-1s.now I no Poole are good but not that good.sorry for hijacking the Birmingham thread.

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