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9 minutes ago, noaksey said:

Is the wheels place still there?

The site is still there and the track can be seen. 

Stocks Bangers closed, never recovered from the tragic death of the Teng Tools Boss crushed by a Tractor on the Centre Green. 

It's contaminated land about 15 acres. 

Strong rumours though that new Owners of Birmingham City a big US Hedge Fund with about 10 billion of managed funds want to build a 45000 seat stadium and turn it into a sports Village. Whether motor sport separate stadium would figure is debatable. 

The contamination may take 3 years just to clear though so no quick fix. 

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1 hour ago, HGould said:

The site is still there and the track can be seen. 

Stocks Bangers closed, never recovered from the tragic death of the Teng Tools Boss crushed by a Tractor on the Centre Green. 

It's contaminated land about 15 acres. 

Strong rumours though that new Owners of Birmingham City a big US Hedge Fund with about 10 billion of managed funds want to build a 45000 seat stadium and turn it into a sports Village. Whether motor sport separate stadium would figure is debatable. 

The contamination may take 3 years just to clear though so no quick fix. 

Thanks. That would be an ideal place for a National League side for Brum

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8 hours ago, the hobbit said:

You are so so wrong!!! 
Rogers  is an inept buffoon and is the worst thing to have happened to our club in recent times. There are many fans who feel  like this snd many who stay away  because of him. 
He’s never been part of a successful team snd never will be . 
there’s a reason he’s had so many clubs snd that’s because once they realise how much of a muppet he is, they can’t wait to get rid of him 

you are welcome to him at your club because we don’t want him at ours 

I'd certainly echo what Crescent Girl has said. In all my years watching speedway, I have never known anyone more passionate about the sport than Laurence Rogers.

That doesn't necessarily make him a good team manager, but I can remember a few years ago Wolverhampton fans turning their ire on Peter Adams after a string of rubbish performances and a poor final league position. Adams was - and remains - the most successful in top flight speedway's history. 

I don't think that this is a matter of spite, but it is a matter of looking for someone to blame for Birmingham's disastrous on track performances over the last couple of seasons - in other words, a scapegoat. 

What you seem to believe is that if he left and the 'inept buffoon' was replaced by someone apparently more competent on track performances would dramatically improve. Looking through the 2023 predictions thread, most have Birmingham bottom and none have them in a play off spot. That means the team is poor - which it clearly is - and therefore whoever comes in is extremely unlikely to turn things around without significant changes. Booting Rogers out, then, will almost certainly make very little difference. 

I am not aware how much say Laurence Rogers had in building the team, but given a reported £250k loss last year even if he was wholly responsible it is more than likely that his hands - not unreasonably - were significantly tied in terms of the budget for the team. 

Blaming him - and only him - for Birmingham's present form seems to me, then, to be totally unsupported by the actual circumstances in existence.

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1 hour ago, Halifaxtiger said:

I'd certainly echo what Crescent Girl has said. In all my years watching speedway, I have never known anyone more passionate about the sport than Laurence Rogers.

That doesn't necessarily make him a good team manager, but I can remember a few years ago Wolverhampton fans turning their ire on Peter Adams after a string of rubbish performances and a poor final league position. Adams was - and remains - the most successful in top flight speedway's history. 

I don't think that this is a matter of spite, but it is a matter of looking for someone to blame for Birmingham's disastrous on track performances over the last couple of seasons - in other words, a scapegoat. 

What you seem to believe is that if he left and the 'inept buffoon' was replaced by someone apparently more competent on track performances would dramatically improve. Looking through the 2023 predictions thread, most have Birmingham bottom and none have them in a play off spot. That means the team is poor - which it clearly is - and therefore whoever comes in is extremely unlikely to turn things around without significant changes. Booting Rogers out, then, will almost certainly make very little difference. 

I am not aware how much say Laurence Rogers had in building the team, but given a reported £250k loss last year even if he was wholly responsible it is more than likely that his hands - not unreasonably - were significantly tied in terms of the budget for the team. 

Blaming him - and only him - for Birmingham's present form seems to me, then, to be totally unsupported by the actual circumstances in existence.

The problem for me is the People running the sport are in denial and seem to the sport is in good health.The sport needs a major revamp IMO.

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1 hour ago, IronScorpion said:

How long would the visa application take?

Presumably not very long going by Edinburgh being able to bring in Bastian Borke after losing to Scunthorpe on 26/05 and before their averages changed on 01/06. Seemed to have more difficulty finding a 2 point rider. 

I'm sure Berwick signed Jonas Knudsen on a temporary visa last year then applied for a full visa. There was a hold up in it being processed and he then had to sit out a few meeting but was back before the end of the season.

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22 minutes ago, Pauldoveyspeedway said:

People  arnt going to pay £20 to watch rubbish...poor team from the start ...Morris is nva a 10 + rider ..Bad call from the start .. 

Exactly!

I think Morris is struggling to hit a 7 average if that atm.

Only Bowtell improving!

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As a matter of interest what were the crowds in the boom years in the NL( 2014/18)  when Birmingham had the likes of Adam Ellis etc and had stern competition from Eastbourne and BV etc over a 3 /4 year period, probably more than now I imagine. Like Eastbourne were pretty  successful over that period, I always said that was the level of clubs like those 2 and many others, but I still think was deemed too successful and a threat to the higher leagues and diluted it. My club has gone, and sadly Birmingham look likely to follow if crowds are only 300/500.

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31 minutes ago, gazzac said:

As a matter of interest what were the crowds in the boom years in the NL( 2014/18)  when Birmingham had the likes of Adam Ellis etc and had stern competition from Eastbourne and BV etc over a 3 /4 year period, probably more than now I imagine. Like Eastbourne were pretty  successful over that period, I always said that was the level of clubs like those 2 and many others, but I still think was deemed too successful and a threat to the higher leagues and diluted it. My club has gone, and sadly Birmingham look likely to follow if crowds are only 300/500.

A hell of a lot more than now snd definitely enough to have hit the 1000 currently needed 

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