torpointfanatic22 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 hours ago, arnieg said: With only 8 Wednesdays that don't clash with Denmark and 5 non-Wednesday clubs who either have already declared Danes or had Danes last season, I have no idea how anyone believed two home and away was a goer. Maybe, but then make it 12 home and 12 away whereby you face four teams twice and the other four, once. This regional cup, basically exactly the same as we had this season just at a different point in the season is crap and meaningless. Why not just make those fixtures extra league matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Ask the Promoter at Buxton I’m sure she could tell what they were doing wrong.A Club run in the manor the why the league was formed,until winning meant everything to some Clubs and started paying money some could not afford.Ironically most hav3 folded But the ndl is still needed and get back to what it should be definitely not scrapped for pointtless second half races. Edited November 17, 2022 by mc131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Just now, mc131 said: But the ndl is still needed and get back to what it should be definitely not scrapped for pointtless second half races. I do agree that the NDL is needed,but is it financially viable at some Clubs.I don’t know ,but some of the attendances have been poor in matches I have seen.Don’t know the pay rates though or the sponsorship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, torpointfanatic22 said: Which frankly dilutes the playoffs further. The playoffs should be tough to get to and a big thing if you get there. This season if you avoid the bottom 3rd of the league you qualify! Not a fan of the play-offs but if they had to keep them, should have just made it top 4 qualify! How can a team "celebrate" qualifying for the play-offs by finishing 6th out of 9? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Might have missed it but has anything been agreed about guest riders ,Kennett saga last season is it going to be the same should someone unfortunately get injured and be out for a long spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Essex said: Might have missed it but has anything been agreed about guest riders ,Kennett saga last season is it going to be the same should someone unfortunately get injured and be out for a long spell. Nothing so far announced but may be a SCB decision rather than BSPL? Edited November 17, 2022 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Shovlar Posted November 17, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Not enough meetings. 11/12 is not enough meetings. Means many weeks with nothing going on. Should have been two home and away. Scrap group comp. Dear oh dear very poor call. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Essex said: Might have missed it but has anything been agreed about guest riders ,Kennett saga last season is it going to be the same should someone unfortunately get injured and be out for a long spell. Seems like they haven't learnt anything from the Plymouth / Birmingham / Newcastle injury issues, so I assume if a rider gets injured in the first match you can get a guest for the season? Edited November 17, 2022 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not enough meetings. 11/12 is not enough meetings. Means many weeks with nothing going on. Should have been two home and away. Scrap group comp. Dear oh dear very poor call. Maybe they thought attendances would drop as people might not be able to afford more meetings, especially with extra financial pressures from April 2023? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Maybe they thought attendances would drop as people might not be able to afford more meetings, especially with extra financial pressures from April 2023? Although there is also a danger of fans getting out of the habit of going to speedway. Time will tell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) It's the age old question re Speedway If you support a Football Team (as many Speedway fans do), a Rugby Team (either Code as many do), or any other type of Sports Team, the habit is ALTERNATING Fixtures / Weeks Supporters tune to it and plan around it. Very few drift away because they can't go every week. Speedway though has always been different. Some of the Promoters of the past, and they were PROMOTERS in the actual sense that they could promote, did base everything on the weekly continuity. However, times have changed, attitudes have changes, alternative options have massively increased. The Clubs no longer want more Meeting to make more profit, rather, less means losing LESS and possibly optimise support by getting more through the gates. There will be many who can't afford to go every week but who may be able to afford to go every fortnight. If people can't adapt to that I personally think that their mentality towards Speedway is the issue and not the Promoters or Clubs. The issue there is that the age dymanic of the Sport is old, declining and very much stuck in their ways. As anyone who has been to some tracks as an Away supporter and dared sit or stand in a spot that is unmarked and not reserved, yet someone who has been there for 30,40,50 years then comes along and offers a mouthful of abuse, will testify! -ahem! Edited November 18, 2022 by HGould SPELLLING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Although there is also a danger of fans getting out of the habit of going to speedway. Time will tell. Thats been the age-old problem where people get something else to do on a race night, or their children do more likely, obviously there are others who become tired with speedway and the ever-changing rules, and who can blame them. I don't believe that the powers that be have it in them to re-invent a sport that can attract new supporters, let's face they have a fight on just to keep the fans they have at the minute. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 less meetings less riders .lower grade riders will disappear not looking good for next season ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not enough meetings. 11/12 is not enough meetings. Means many weeks with nothing going on. Should have been two home and away. Scrap group comp. Dear oh dear very poor call. Should have moved up to the PL, after all you did "win" the league title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, HGould said: It's the age old question re Speedway If you support a Football Team (as many Speedway fans do), a Rugby Team (either Code as many do), or any other type of Sports Team, the habit is ALTERNATING Fixtures / Weeks Supporters tune to it and plan around it. Very few drift away because they can't go every week. Speedway though has always been different. Some of the Promoters of the past, and they were PROMOTERS in the actual sense that they could promote, did base everything on the weekly continuity. However, times have changed, attitudes have changes, alternative options have massively increased. The Clubs no longer want more Meeting to make more profit, rather, less means losing LESS and possibly optimise support by getting more through the gates. There will be many who can't afford to go every week but who may be able to afford to go every fortnight. If people can't adapt to that I personally think that their mentality towards Speedway is the issue and not the Promoters or Clubs. The issue there is that the age dymanic of the Sport is old, declining and very much stuck in their ways. As anyone who has been to some tracks as an Away supporter and dared sit or stand in a spot that is unmarked and not reserved, yet someone who has been there for 30,40,50 years then comes along and offers a mouthful of abuse, will testify! -ahem! There were so many Teams in the League in these days you are talking about they had to run Weekly Fixtures,that’s the difference. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 Should've been one division, plus NDL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ray c said: less meetings less riders .lower grade riders will disappear not looking good for next season ? One less home league meeting due to one less club. Same ko Cup and mini league fixtures. Plus a couple of challenges maybe? It's still possible to have a fortnightly habit especially those Wednesday tracks who will be away on some Wednesdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Should've been one division, plus NDL. How many years have fans been saying that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fromafar said: How many years have fans been saying that. Quite right...apologies for the repeat...it's just that I cant find anything positive to say about the new plans etc.... Super Heat is a crap idea IMO....it's not a football match, where sometimes/tactically teams attempt to play for a draw ? (I could be wrong...I suppose) A draw is a draw....sometimes it sends both sets of fans home happy ? Edited November 18, 2022 by GiveusaB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 21 minutes ago, Fromafar said: How many years have fans been saying that. Well won't be long til it will have to be one league as won't be enough teams to do two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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