Pirates Of Poole Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 With riders being announced the limit must be known for 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FromBendThree Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: With riders being announced the limit must be known for 2023. Yes. The figure is usually sorted in August. That’s why Eastbourne had to declare then if they were going into the Championship. Of course, they said no for 2023 and it left clubs fairly clear about the league for next year. Monarchs situation may have been a complication. Nothing of real importance happens at the AGM and nor has it for some years. Old time fans see the AGM has the holy grail but that’s history. It’s all cut and dried and I bet most clubs have the bulk of next years team signed on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, iainb said: It's the T20 Cricket World Cup Final at the MCG on Sunday, if it's rained off, they're holding it on the Monday... if that's rained off the trophy is shared and everybody moves on... what a great idea! All to do with scheduling. One day series between England and Australia starts next Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: With riders being announced the limit must be known for 2023. The main issues for 2023 have been discussed and provisionally agreed, subject to the final number of team declarations and financial stability to be approved at next week's AGM as a matter of record. Edited November 10, 2022 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 Anyone imagining that there will be a reduction in admission prices is living in a dream world. Clearly Championship promoters are looking to cut costs so they are hardly likely to give away what they might save. I fully agree with the poster who suggested that there are numerous rider riding in the Championship who shouldn't be performing at this level at all, and it is these who are pushing up the costs so a way has to be found to exclude them. Some supporters won't like it, but it has to be done. Allowing doubling-up has been the most damaging decision that the BSPL have made, but we are lumbered with it now, and the only hope is that it can eventually become more limited - but to be honest, I wouldn't bank on this happening. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Pirates Of Poole said: With riders being announced the limit must be known for 2023. Everyone seems pretty convinced it will be 40! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 I thought I read somewhere that rather than just trying to make the Championship weaker they wanted to reduce doubling up? If that's the case then it's a good thing IMO, originally it was introduced just for British reserves then it got totally out of hand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, tocha said: All to do with scheduling. One day series between England and Australia starts next Thursday. They're prepared to not run a world cup final to keep on schedule and we're still messing about trying to run a crappy Jubilee Trophy, 2 extremes there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmuncie Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, brianbuck said: Anyone imagining that there will be a reduction in admission prices is living in a dream world. Clearly Championship promoters are looking to cut costs so they are hardly likely to give away what they might save. I fully agree with the poster who suggested that there are numerous rider riding in the Championship who shouldn't be performing at this level at all, and it is these who are pushing up the costs so a way has to be found to exclude them. Some supporters won't like it, but it has to be done. Allowing doubling-up has been the most damaging decision that the BSPL have made, but we are lumbered with it now, and the only hope is that it can eventually become more limited - but to be honest, I wouldn't bank on this happening. Who would you say these riders are that ‘shouldn’t be performing in the championship’? The problem is how far the premiership has fallen the calibre of rider in the Championship now is no better than it was 10/15/20 years ago. The main difference then was the top level had world stars in every lineup. If there needs to be a clear line between the two divisions then why is it the championship that needs weakened rather than the premiership strengthened? Why don’t they raise the limit of the Prem to say something like 50 then teams that want to can build super strength teams with multiple gp stars that would show the difference. Constantly watering down the middle tier the most varied and competitive division in the country does no one any favours. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted November 10, 2022 Report Share Posted November 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, gmuncie said: Who would you say these riders are that ‘shouldn’t be performing in the championship’? The problem is how far the premiership has fallen the calibre of rider in the Championship now is no better than it was 10/15/20 years ago. The main difference then was the top level had world stars in every lineup. If there needs to be a clear line between the two divisions then why is it the championship that needs weakened rather than the premiership strengthened? Why don’t they raise the limit of the Prem to say something like 50 then teams that want to can build super strength teams with multiple gp stars that would show the difference. Constantly watering down the middle tier the most varied and competitive division in the country does no one any favours. Absolutely spot on…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Might be worth waiting to see who Premiership teams sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 hours ago, gmuncie said: Who would you say these riders are that ‘shouldn’t be performing in the championship’? The problem is how far the premiership has fallen the calibre of rider in the Championship now is no better than it was 10/15/20 years ago. The main difference then was the top level had world stars in every lineup. If there needs to be a clear line between the two divisions then why is it the championship that needs weakened rather than the premiership strengthened? Why don’t they raise the limit of the Prem to say something like 50 then teams that want to can build super strength teams with multiple gp stars that would show the difference. Constantly watering down the middle tier the most varied and competitive division in the country does no one any favours. I wouldn't disagree with that, the only thing I would say other than too much doubling up is that we need a better pathway for NDL graduates, the jump is too big at the moment and some kind of reserve scheme needs bringing back. Rumour has it the Prem are ditching the FTR system which is a mistake IMO, there needs to be joined up thinking between the three leagues so young riders can see where they need to go and have a bit of assistance getting there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Everyone seems pretty convinced it will be 40! That's because it is 40 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 hours ago, gmuncie said: Who would you say these riders are that ‘shouldn’t be performing in the championship’? The problem is how far the premiership has fallen the calibre of rider in the Championship now is no better than it was 10/15/20 years ago. The main difference then was the top level had world stars in every lineup. If there needs to be a clear line between the two divisions then why is it the championship that needs weakened rather than the premiership strengthened? Why don’t they raise the limit of the Prem to say something like 50 then teams that want to can build super strength teams with multiple gp stars that would show the difference. Constantly watering down the middle tier the most varied and competitive division in the country does no one any favours. Where are the riders going to come from to allow 50 point teams? Right now the Premiership is going to have a problem finding seven extra riders to staff the addtional team (Leicester) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beirao said: Where are the riders going to come from to allow 50 point teams? Right now the Premiership is going to have a problem finding seven extra riders to staff the addtional team (Leicester) Polish league riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 hours ago, gmuncie said: Who would you say these riders are that ‘shouldn’t be performing in the championship’? The problem is how far the premiership has fallen the calibre of rider in the Championship now is no better than it was 10/15/20 years ago. The main difference then was the top level had world stars in every lineup. If there needs to be a clear line between the two divisions then why is it the championship that needs weakened rather than the premiership strengthened? Why don’t they raise the limit of the Prem to say something like 50 then teams that want to can build super strength teams with multiple gp stars that would show the difference. Constantly watering down the middle tier the most varied and competitive division in the country does no one any favours. This has already been mentioned in this very thread, but how can the Premiership teams strengthen if the big names don't want to come? Raising the points limit to 50 is absurd, no team will be able to get close to that. They simply don't have the money or the appeal for the top stars. And even if they do, it will just be one or two teams that are able to get close 50 and they will totally dominate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Polish league riders. Like who? Who is going to want to come? We don't pay enough and we have too many fixtures. There might be one or two, but there won't be many. Just because Poland has relaxed their two league limit, it doesn't mean all the top stars are going to come flooding over here. History tells us that! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I said originally we'd get around half a dozen new faces in the Prem as a result of the changes, Dudek and Bewley are rumoured and I could see Iversen, maybe Bjerre and one or two others. It'll be gradual but the more riders we can get over here who don't ride in the Champs the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 When is the AGM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmuncie Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Bojangles said: This has already been mentioned in this very thread, but how can the Premiership teams strengthen if the big names don't want to come? Raising the points limit to 50 is absurd, no team will be able to get close to that. They simply don't have the money or the appeal for the top stars. And even if they do, it will just be one or two teams that are able to get close 50 and they will totally dominate. While I agree the top guys more than likely aren’t going to come over there is a second tier of guys I wouldn’t have thought it would be to hard to attract some of especially with Swedens troubles. Guys like Jensen, Bjerre, Klindt, Holder, Bewley, Lidsey, NKI, Tungate, Bellego, Berge, Lahti, Huckenbeck, If only a couple of teams could put a team to that standard together then let them, speedway must be about the only sport that constantly punishes success and plays down to the lowest common denominator 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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