Falcon1983 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 32 league fixtures with play offs on top will be carnage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 Perfectly achievable. Start the season at the beginning of April. Gives you 22 weeks until beginning of September. Key is getting the fixtures centrally managed. Might require occasional flexibility on days, but some clubs manage this already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 6:06 PM, Gazc said: Like Workington did in 2018 you mean. It is well-documented that what was paid to riders that season went a long way in ensuring that they couldn't sustain it. And the bottom line it's their cash so from that respect if they want to splash it as you put it then what's the problem? Seems a few from Cumbria can't get their heads around that. Expand All I can say is H18TORY I can die happy knowing we won the treble!! And we will be back UTC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neila Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 5:57 PM, stevehone said: if you're thinking Poole as one of them, i don't think they splash the cash, riders go there because they know they're guaranteed to get paid Expand What about poaching lawson from Plymouth?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 12:17 AM, Neila said: What about poaching lawson from Plymouth?? Expand I thought we were done with that myth now? Especially now Richard has explained the sequence of events. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 12:17 AM, Neila said: What about poaching lawson from Plymouth?? Expand he did say how he lost so much money at Eastbourne and then found out one of the promoters was involved at Plymouth .. once bitten and all that 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvcjk Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 7:51 PM, Jaizer said: Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway Expand It goes without saying, the Facennas have been brilliant for Glasgow and British Speedway but the amount of the money and equipment they’ve thrown at riders in desperation to win the league is ludicrous. From what I’ve heard, they’ve also been paying a certain Dane to drop his average this season… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 3:38 PM, JCookie said: 32 meetings + potentially another 4 for the playoffs + whatever else they come up with. That's not even considering those who have NL clubs. In a country that couldn't finish a season until November 4th (not including the Jubilee Trophy). If it was the first time then you'd give BSPL a pass for being optimistic and ambitious. Seeing as it isn't, they're just plain stupid. Expand They have thought of that.. Hence, the season starts next Monday.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 Limiting guarantees will be very hard to "self" police... When a standard points limit was introduced, probably 30 years or so ago, riders got sponsored by various companies, (some bought off the shelf), to make up the "huge differential" that the very top riders (who all rode here), would have had.. You only have to see how easy it is for "state owned" football clubs to get "legitimately" around FFP by having huge sponsorship from relatively unknown small, and medium sized businesses, to realise controlling it will be difficult... Even with an independent regulator in place, which obviously Speedway doesnt have, it is hard to administer... Fair play for trying to reduce costs, and make it a more level playing field but it will be difficult to implement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 1:51 AM, stevehone said: he did say how he lost so much money at Eastbourne and then found out one of the promoters was involved at Plymouth .. once bitten and all that Expand And he was wrong 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.D Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 1:51 AM, stevehone said: he did say how he lost so much money at Eastbourne and then found out one of the promoters was involved at Plymouth .. once bitten and all that Expand £8K On 11/6/2022 at 6:44 AM, lewy said: And he was wrong Expand No comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 11:38 PM, Noelinho said: Perfectly achievable. Start the season at the beginning of April. Gives you 22 weeks until beginning of September. Key is getting the fixtures centrally managed. Might require occasional flexibility on days, but some clubs manage this already. Expand 100%... When "needs must", they frantically cram in match after match (due to their disorganised preceding 6 months), and teams suddenly ride on all sorts of nights... Therefore, just have the same focus earlier on in the piece... If Newcastle had rode there would be Championship Speedway on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, so plenty of scope to fit meetings in by using off nights and days that are "free"... I am sure there are logistically some challenges with Polish lower league fixtures on Saturday's and Sunday's and track availability too in places, but if there was a cut off point earlier in the season when all meetings had to take place, and any that didnt had clear consequences for those involved depending on fault, then I am sure the season would end on time.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 8:09 PM, lisa-colette said: Tbf Richard said he hadn't won a league title. Expand He was probably misquoted for effect then lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 8:07 AM, mikebv said: 100%... When "needs must", they frantically cram in match after match (due to their disorganised preceding 6 months), ...... I am sure there are logistically some challenges with Polish lower league fixtures on Saturday's and Sunday's and track availability too in places, but if there was a cut off point earlier in the season when all meetings had to take place, and any that didnt had clear consequences for those involved depending on fault, then I am sure the season would end on time.. Expand I also forsee difficulty for Wednesday clubs accommodating visiting teams with Danish riders. 14 of their 22 Wednesday home dates will clash with DSL fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulboy Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 1:18 PM, lisa-colette said: Hopefully it will be top 4 in Champ and top 3 in Prem as it should be hard to get into. Not having teams in it who finish mid table. Expand I agree, although 4th of 9 would be pretty much mid table, so top 3 in both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 8:22 AM, arnieg said: I also forsee difficulty for Wednesday clubs accommodating visiting teams with Danish riders. 14 of their 22 Wednesday home dates will clash with DSL fixtures. Expand I don't think Brummies (nor Oxford for that matter) will go down the "Danish route" or riders that are contracted to Denmark. Of course it'll be up to those Clubs to try to accomodate their Opponents who have and to the BSPL I'd suggest to strongly police excessive "Guests and absences" to protect Oxford and Birmingham to ensure that they are not messed about by Danish League absentees. Some Danish riders may also have to balance the options of being in the UK on Mondays and Thursdays for PL commitments and the economics of riding in DSL with possibly bigger pay days in UK although naturally Danish sponsors will want them in Denmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) On 11/5/2022 at 3:01 PM, szkocjasid said: 2) how do they work out the match result, clubs could cancel meetings / say track it too dangerous depending on opposition Expand And going back to No 2... clubs can effectively do this at the moment with a call off on a dodgy forecast, no medical cover, a broken power line, a broken water pipe, a football match on the telly... take your pick and then restage the match after the play off cut off Edited November 6, 2022 by iainb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) On 11/6/2022 at 12:17 AM, Neila said: What about poaching lawson from Plymouth?? Expand Lawson approached Poole, fact and from the horses mouth Edited November 6, 2022 by Arthur54 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 2:06 AM, Edin03 said: It goes without saying, the Facennas have been brilliant for Glasgow and British Speedway but the amount of the money and equipment they’ve thrown at riders in desperation to win the league is ludicrous. From what I’ve heard, they’ve also been paying a certain Dane to drop his average this season… Expand I'll take a stab you're meaning Santa Claus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/6/2022 at 2:06 AM, Edin03 said: It goes without saying, the Facennas have been brilliant for Glasgow and British Speedway but the amount of the money and equipment they’ve thrown at riders in desperation to win the league is ludicrous. From what I’ve heard, they’ve also been paying a certain Dane to drop his average this season… Expand I’ve heard they bought Dan Bewley a flat in the west end of Glasgow ready for the move up to the premier in 2024, have made themselves the largest shareholder in the methanol supplier to speedway and are going to cut off supplies to any team that looks likely to catch up with them, lastly are paying Sam Masters £100,000 per point he can take off his average so they can sign him for the reserve spot around July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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