Jaizer Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Lawson is riding as well as I have ever seem him ride ,fair play to him. Absolutely. Still a huge favourite in Glasgow and not just down to his old man. Even seen him passing this season! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 hours ago, iainb said: 1) Not really an issue, refund ticket holders, offer transfer to next year or even structure the season ticket in a different way, maybe membership that gets you discounts etc... Cricket must have a similar issue, how do they model their season tickets? 2) 1 point each, only a Referee can call a match off while they are in attendance any call off prior is done by the SCB. 3) Riders and clubs will be more willing to get matches on 4) They run filler fixtures after the League programme to fulfil any obligations, the League must not be held up because of 1 club Sorry but all fixtures need completing, it would be easier if the league is run correctly instead of allowing clubs to dictate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Poole are not the highest payers. But they pay, and riders know they are in with a shout of a title. Richard Lawson said last night that was the first trophy he had won in his career and it means a lot to him. Imagine going through a whole career but no trophies to show for it? Nearly all riders in their career win very little individually. A very few win the odd title. An even smaller amount win a national title and we are in to thin air with world championships. To win a club title is very important to most riders, and they know if they are lucky enough to join a club like Poole they are in with a chance of just that. For riders like Kemp, Ablitt, it has come early in their careers but might not happen again. When they retire they can look back and remember they were part of that team. Poole don’t pay a guarantee. They do pay riders points money which is affordable to the club. As for some on here saying the playoffs sg]hould be scrapped and it should just be top of the league is champs, imagine if Poole next year went through the card and the title ws decided in late June. We would have clubs putting out weakened teams at away meetings to save money, robbing the public, because the club have no chance of catching the runaway winners. The playoffs have been going strong for 20 years and will not be dispatched with. They bring in huge crowds, keep the league alive and keep the fans interested. And I for one love them. As do many others. I am guessing Richard has forgotten about winning the KO cup with Glasgow in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, mc131 said: Sorry but all fixtures need completing, it would be easier if the league is run correctly instead of allowing clubs to dictate Business as usual then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted November 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway It gets brought up on a daily basis , and usually by the same posters. Very tiresome. Edited November 5, 2022 by Gazc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jaizer said: Re the money situation. I know my club is accused and probably guilty of paying more than most and have a 2016 KO cup to show for it. It's no like football where we can go and buy 7 no.1s. we have to fit 7 guys under the same points limit as every other club, and who is considered a snip is all matter of opinion and some (most?) don't work out that way. The way some go on its as if successful businessmen are not welcome in British speedway Irrespective of what ANY Club pay they can only build aTeam to the points limit.it’s been proved a few times Teams on paper don’t mean a lot. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, snapper said: I am guessing Richard has forgotten about winning the KO cup with Glasgow in 2016 Tbf Richard said he hadn't won a league title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 Having thought about it a bit more - are the BSPL trying to drive out the double up riders by giving them too many fixtures? It's a problem which needs sorted at some point and this would be one way of going about it. I'm not sure I trust them to be that clever though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, iainb said: Business as usual then? Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, mc131 said: Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change In a world where meetings can be abandoned for any number of reasons and easily called off based on inaccurate weather forecasts we can't go on trying to accommodate rearranged fixtures. Clubs should not be allowed to call matches of on a whim, only an official independent body should... we are trying to run a credible sport in a professional manner after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, iainb said: In a world where meetings can be abandoned for any number of reasons and easily called off based on inaccurate weather forecasts we can't go on trying to accommodate rearranged fixtures. Clubs should not be allowed to call matches of on a whim, only an official independent body should... we are trying to run a credible sport in a professional manner after all The independent body would work to control it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 21 minutes ago, mc131 said: Hopefully not but fixtures need running, some1 needs to control the fixture list not cram them in like thus season and let clubs dictate obviously wishful thinking because nothing will change You just can't do that in modern Speedway, it's not just this season, it's every season and it's getting worse with forecast offs... and now they're planning to increase league fixtures! After the season we've just had! It beggars belief! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, JCookie said: Having thought about it a bit more - are the BSPL trying to drive out the double up riders by giving them too many fixtures? It's a problem which needs sorted at some point and this would be one way of going about it. I'm not sure I trust them to be that clever though. The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, Fromafar said: The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. This year they got paid for 20 league meetings, 2023 is scheduled for 32 league meetings that’s 12 more pay days?? How many do they need to make it worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: The Top riders have already said they can’t make it pay without doubling up so that won’t happen. There's nothing stopping them if that's the case. Except for the fact they'll have 32+ meetings to contend with in the Championship alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Cast1rn said: This year they got paid for 20 league meetings, 2023 is scheduled for 32 league meetings that’s 12 more pay days?? How many do they need to make it worth while. Don’t know if you are misunderstanding my Post,but they will still want to ride in Premiership and abroad.That will cause the same chaos in fixture list as last season.They rode in a lot more 20 league fixtures last because they were doubling up and riding abroad. Edited November 5, 2022 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, JCookie said: There's nothing stopping them if that's the case. Except for the fact they'll have 32+ meetings to contend with in the Championship alone. That’s what I mean,it will cause chaos if they have 32 Championship fixtures too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Fromafar said: That’s what I mean,it will cause chaos if they have 32 Championship fixtures too. Hopefully let's some of the lesser lights make it pay as they're the ones we need to support. Nothing against them but the likes of Masters do not need the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 Only thing I don’t understand, why don’t he promoters keep the 42.00 current limit? With Leicester going up the likes of Morris, Howarth and Worrall become available and all 3 can’t go to Birmingham to strengthen them? So we have top riders available which could miss out on a champ place due to a low points limit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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