racers and royals Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Col said: Ellis is 2nd in Polish League 2 averages, way ahead of any other Brit. As he's at Sheffield with Stead you'd think that gives him the advantage. The only Brit to have attained an average in Polish League 1 is Brennan. Would think Lawson or Harris are the only other two viable options. Massive gap from the 3 GP Brits to the rest though sadly. With the SWC being held at Wroclaw which is Woffinden & Bewley's home track you could make a case for GB being favourites. Zmarzlik & Janowski (Wroclaw home track but not in form) are nailed on for Poland but no idea which other riders the Polish Manager will go for. If Pedersen picks himself with the 3 GP Dates They could be considered favourites also. Iversen, Jensen as 5th. Does one rider have to be U21. Aussies also won't be far off, 3 GP riders plus Lidsey. Swedes unlikely to make the final you'd think. NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchs2468 Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Col said: Ellis is 2nd in Polish League 2 averages, way ahead of any other Brit. As he's at Sheffield with Stead you'd think that gives him the advantage. The only Brit to have attained an average in Polish League 1 is Brennan. Would think Lawson or Harris are the only other two viable options. Massive gap from the 3 GP Brits to the rest though sadly. With the SWC being held at Wroclaw which is Woffinden & Bewley's home track you could make a case for GB being favourites. Zmarzlik & Janowski (Wroclaw home track but not in form) are nailed on for Poland but no idea which other riders the Polish Manager will go for. If Pedersen picks himself with the 3 GP Dates They could be considered favourites also. Iversen, Jensen as 5th. Does one rider have to be U21. Aussies also won't be far off, 3 GP riders plus Lidsey. Swedes unlikely to make the final you'd think. Col, I don't mean to be rude here but you are getting me excited. If things break right then absolutely GB have a great shot but same applies for Pol and Aus. One question I hope others can take a stab at is - will there be track shenanigans? Let's say GB/Aus romp the qualifiers, will the track be very different for the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Track could take a bit of a hammering !! Practice in the afternoon before each semi. No practice before race-off. Practice in the afternoon before the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 6/12/2023 at 12:58 PM, racers and royals said: Adam Ellis Please god no 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 If not Ellis, who? Lawson, Harris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Please god no Anyone but far to many crashes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Col said: If not Ellis, who? Lawson, Harris? charles wright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, DazS said: charles wright Would be my choice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Has Wright ever ridden regularly in Poland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 Got to be Ellis and Brennan for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 I would personally go with Richard Lawson. I'm a big fan of Charles Wright but I think Richard just has the edge with the bigger meetings. But as far as I'm aware the 5th rider doesn't have to be under 21 anymore, so perhaps bring Charles too and if Richard struggles try them both? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Col said: Has Wright ever ridden regularly in Poland? i believe he did a few year ago but got ripped off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Woffinden, Lambert, Lawson, Brennan, Res Bewley 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 I just feel that if you expose any rider who doesn't ride in Poland currently and /or hasn't done much in the past they will get absolutely devoured at Wroclaw, a track where there is absolutely nowhere to hide. Ellis has been a regular on the continent for years and Brennan has quite a bit of Polish experience as well as riding BV every week. As good as the averages for Lawson, Worrall, Wright etc are in the UK I think they would be put to the slaughter. Bomber is the only other option really but I just don't see him having the speed unless he can sneak a longtrack bike in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Charles Wright and the 3 who pick themselves... We have 3 of the worlds top 10, with two of them being absolutely top notch around their home track of Wroclaw at times this season.. Worrall would be my choice if at Vojens.. And Ellis seems to be having an injury impacted campaign... So why Wright? Wroclaw and the NSS are pretty similar in shape as both built around American Football pitches with wide, sweeping bends... And Charles does have that bit of "devil" in him when it all becomes "too close for comfort", he wont take any prisoners in those "clutch" moments of races... And you won't be passing him without having to take a risk or two. He will make sure of that. And if behind won't be scared of doing the odd "Bartek" across any of the apexes, and riding his opponent up the track... For me, it is a great opportunity to win in Poland's "backyard"... As long as we get "No 4" correct... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 22 hours ago, mikebv said: Charles Wright and the 3 who pick themselves... We have 3 of the worlds top 10, with two of them being absolutely top notch around their home track of Wroclaw at times this season.. Worrall would be my choice if at Vojens.. And Ellis seems to be having an injury impacted campaign... So why Wright? Wroclaw and the NSS are pretty similar in shape as both built around American Football pitches with wide, sweeping bends... And Charles does have that bit of "devil" in him when it all becomes "too close for comfort", he wont take any prisoners in those "clutch" moments of races... And you won't be passing him without having to take a risk or two. He will make sure of that. And if behind won't be scared of doing the odd "Bartek" across any of the apexes, and riding his opponent up the track... For me, it is a great opportunity to win in Poland's "backyard"... As long as we get "No 4" correct... Wright would do for me,I’m sure Polish track would suit him. also would have Lawson before Ellis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJC Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 It just cannot be Harris and I have a real feeling it will be him after his longtrack win over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc131 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, DJC said: It just cannot be Harris and I have a real feeling it will be him after his longtrack win over there Rather Harris than Ellis at least he can cut it when the goin gets tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchs2468 Posted July 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 Will Chris Holder make it? If he does how effective will he be? I ask as this is probably the key for a GB 2nd place finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted July 5, 2023 Report Share Posted July 5, 2023 22 minutes ago, Monarchs2468 said: Will Chris Holder make it? If he does how effective will he be? I ask as this is probably the key for a GB 2nd place finish. He's announced as fit for Friday night and racing for Leszno against Grudziadz, so every chance he could make it if the Aussies decide to use him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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