PotteringAround Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, False dawn said: Dan Bewley at No.5 tonight? Yes. An ill-thought-out move that offers no advantage, and could backfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 the advantage would be if no teams drop six points behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, DazS said: the advantage would be if no teams drop six points behind. No advantage there either. If you don't drop 6 behind (as you wouldn't want to) then you don't get tac rides, and you'd want Bewley, Lambert and Woffinden to be taking all their 5 rides, and it's just a case of how to split the other 5 rides between Brennan and Ellis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, DazS said: the advantage would be if no teams drop six points behind. Or if team GB is the only team to fall 6 behind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) If we drop 6 behind we'll be very unlikely to win as Tac subs are less effective in this format and in a best case scenario, you'll still be 3 behind, but possibly still 5 and that's if the Tac sub wins.. As the track has given a massive advantage so far to gates 1 and 2, I see the benefit of replacing Ellis and Brennan when they have these gates by the No5. It means he has 4 rides from gates 1 & 2. Brennan & Ellis who are unlikely to score anyway will get gates 3 & 4 unless we are 6 behind and then Tac Sub them. This I think gives us a sniff. Edited July 29, 2023 by Shockster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilly Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: Yes. An ill-thought-out move that offers no advantage, and could backfire. Can a reserve not replace another rider even if not 6 behind? If so, Bewley can take 6 rides regardless, surely making GB better off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Hilly said: Can a reserve not replace another rider even if not 6 behind? If so, Bewley can take 6 rides regardless, surely making GB better off. He can only have 5 rides if we don't go 6 behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hilly said: Can a reserve not replace another rider even if not 6 behind? If so, Bewley can take 6 rides regardless, surely making GB better off. No. If not 6 points behind he can only have 5 rides. If we're 6 behind he can have a 6th tactical ride. This applies to all the riders in the team, not just the reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTheBoards Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Shockster said: As the track has given a massive advantage so far to gates 1 and 2, I see the benefit of replacing Ellis and Brennan when they have these gates by the No5. It means he has 4 rides from gates 1 & 2. You''re advocating giving away Brennan and Ellis's easiest rides to Bewley, and throwing away the other Brennan/Ellis rides ? That seems totally backwards. If we're going to win we need Bewley, Lambert and Woffinden winning off any gate and then giving the best opportunity to Brennan/Ellis to pick up points in the other. You really want to give our best rider the best gates and easiest rides, and then throw our weakest riders to the wolves for no points? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, RoundTheBoards said: You''re advocating giving away Brennan and Ellis's easiest rides to Bewley, and throwing away the other Brennan/Ellis rides ? That seems totally backwards. If we're going to win we need Bewley, Lambert and Woffinden winning off any gate and then giving the best opportunity to Brennan/Ellis to pick up points in the other. You really want to give our best rider the best gates and easiest rides, and then throw our weakest riders to the wolves for no points? Yep that's exactly what I'm saying. Hope Ellis and Brennan do well, but realisticly they're out of their depth. Don't waste the best gates on them. Sometimes you have to be harsh. It's not a time for sentiment. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 got to at least give brennan and Ellis there 1st rides then take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, DazS said: the advantage would be if no teams drop six points behind. meaning the reserve is the only tactical choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Just double checking it's on an hour later tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 we dont expect Brennan or Ellis to win a race we hope they can avoid last places. their best chance is in there 1st races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Hunter Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, bruno said: Just double checking it's on an hour later tonight I think so as it says 7 pm on Speedway Updates and the coverage on Discovery+ doesn't start until 6.30 pm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Hilly said: Can a reserve not replace another rider even if not 6 behind? If so, Bewley can take 6 rides regardless, surely making GB better off. How many more times am i going to say. ALL 5 RIDERS CAN HAVE 5 RIDES PLUS 1 RIDE AS A TAC SUB 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 We have 6 gates 1 or 2 in the first 8 races. This is usually when they are at their most advantageous before an outside line starts to work. Hope the TMs are man enough to use Bewley. If we aren't in the lead after heat 8 with that advantage then the games up anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 36 minutes ago, racers and royals said: How many more times am i going to say. ALL 5 RIDERS CAN HAVE 5 RIDES PLUS 1 RIDE AS A TAC SUB What? Even the reser .. I'm joking! I'm joking! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, racers and royals said: How many more times am i going to say. ALL 5 RIDERS CAN HAVE 5 RIDES PLUS 1 RIDE AS A TAC SUB Can have but i dont think there is a minimum requirement is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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