World Cup - Wroclaw July 2023

[racers and royals]

1 hour ago, chun said:

i wasn’t really paying attention last night…are there tactical subs?  what are the rules around using the reserve?  thanks

For the umpteenth time- tac subs when a team is 6 points behind the leading  team - 1 ride only per rider. Only up to heat 16. No 5 can replace another team member at any time and can have 5 rides plus a Tac Sub ride.( Same. Max as other riders)

Edited July 26, 2023 by racers and royals

[iris123]

4 hours ago, CB252 said:

Because 110 PLN is a lot to a polish person and they aren't interested in supporting anything that they aren't competing in.

Imagine Finland v Italy v Australia v Sweden on a Tuesday night at Scunthorpe. There would be about 45 people there 

There is never anyone at the early rounds in any country because you always know who's going through.

They would have got a much better crowd by hosting last nights meeting over the border in Germany for instance. Hardly a big deal for logistics etc. Tonights meeting in Denmark , then move to Poland for the last two meetings. 4 meetings in a week in one country is never going to work for crowds or the track

[Fromafar]

29 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

The change in the GB set up from beer and pizzas to the current professionalism has shown it’s value. We struggled for so long as a nation to provide any impact and now we have eclipsed Sweden and may well also eclipse Australia and Denmark.

Although Adam Ellis’s score was less than some wanted, (though few expected different)  his heat 1 win against the current World’s second best rider set GB up for a positive night when we were never headed. 
I am sure he’s already analysed what went wrong and is working within the team - fellow riders, team managers, sports specialists and engine tuner to help him improve on Saturday. 
Flying in a substitute rider now, whoever that might be, has the potential to undermine the whole team on the grounds of “we don’t believe the group of people who have got GB to the final are the right group, so need to make a change”

I don’t believe for one moment that dropping Adam and bringing in a replacement will suddenly make GB a gold medal team. Time will tell…..

You wouldn’t have too fly in a substitute,just give Brennan a go.

[DJC]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

You wouldn’t have too fly in a substitute,just give Brennan a go.

Something that seems to run through the whole GB set up. Reserves aren't used as they could be.

How many times have we sent young lads over on u21/19 team and pairs competitions and the reserve not been given a ride even when rostrum places have been well out of reach. Never going to progress sat there watching.

Czech's putting stichaer in the team and Milik at reserve is probably what got them through into the race off.

 

Edited July 26, 2023 by DJC

[iris123]

I did laugh seeing a comment from Tai about appreciating all the fans and their flags yesterday 

[Shockster]

35 minutes ago, racers and royals said:

For the umpteenth time- tac subs when a team is 6 points behind the leading  teams - 1 ride only per rider. Only up to heat 16. No 5 can replace another team member at any time and can have 5 rides plus a Tac Sub ride.( Same. Max as other riders)

Was thinking about this and to me if you're going to allow Tac subs in a meeting like this, then would have thought to be behind by 4 would be enough.  6 in normal league matches enables you to get within 2 points with a 5-1, but a 3 point win here and the leaders run 2nd and you make up a point?????  Think the rule needs looking at if they want it to enable a closer match?

Just my thoughts.

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

For the umpteenth time- tac subs when a team is 6 points behind the leading  teams - 1 ride only per rider. Only up to heat 16. No 5 can replace another team member at any time and can have 5 rides plus a Tac Sub ride.( Same. Max as other riders)

He’s obviously not got your Book,Speedway for Dummies.Could be a best seller.

[chun]

1 hour ago, racers and royals said:

For the umpteenth time- tac subs when a team is 6 points behind the leading  team - 1 ride only per rider. Only up to heat 16. No 5 can replace another team member at any time and can have 5 rides plus a Tac Sub ride.( Same. Max as other riders)

can any rider be at reserve?

[racers and royals]

4 minutes ago, chun said:

can any rider be at reserve?

Yep

[chun]

cold the reserve, in theory then, ride the last 6 heats of the meeting?

[bloom89]

16 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Kemp would be no better, it doesn't really matter who we have but I would give Harris a go, at least he wouldn't give up like Ellis.

Harris has had so many chances and if you put him in that just means you have zero faith in anybody coming through when you’re using the same rubbish all the time.

[racers and royals]

2 minutes ago, chun said:

cold the reserve, in theory then, ride the last 6 heats of the meeting?

Yes - providing in 15 or 16 they were 6 behind the leaders(to take the Tac Sub ride)

[bloom89]

17 hours ago, Gavan said:

Are you a troll or just blind stupid???

Lawson and Worrall are not riding at Poole and would do as bad as Ellis

Do us all a favour and shut up 

Be suggesting Newman next haha. 

[racers and royals]

Rain around so today`s practice will be a shorter session at 4.45pm UK time.

Edited July 26, 2023 by racers and royals

[phillipsr]

4 hours ago, eric i said:

Everyone knows Harris would not score a hat full of points on Saturday but the question is, would he be more likely to score more than Ellis and Brennen. One point could be the difference between medals.

No in fact i think he would score less

[foreverblue]

So many Russian tennis players playing for other countries, can't we get a Polish rider to get a British Passport, most of them are better than Ellis.

[eric i]

18 minutes ago, phillipsr said:

No in fact i think he would score less

I would put money on him scoring more than 4 yesterday.

[foreverblue]

5 minutes ago, eric i said:

I would put money on him scoring more than 4 yesterday.

But now we are in the final not sure it matters but I would definitely use Brennan more, he looked pretty good in his one ride.

Edited July 26, 2023 by foreverblue

[eric i]

2 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

But now we are in the final not sure it matters but I would definitely use Brennan more, he looked pretty good in his one ride.

I am not sure about Brennan, he beat Lindback who had some problem with his bike and Klima who hadn't scored all night.

[foreverblue]

21 minutes ago, eric i said:

I am not sure about Brennan, he beat Lindback who had some problem with his bike and Klima who hadn't scored all night.

Well he is worth a try but realistically we do well to make the podium.