Gavan Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: And Bewley replaced Ellis and Rasmus Jensen replaced Nicki earlier in the week but you cant expect Gavan to know the rules! I know the rules … you can’t nominate your reserve twice in heats 17-20….. not hard to understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, GiveusaB said: Same old GB... Boris Becker once said, the difference between the English and the Germans is...Germans were scared of losing, but the Brits are scared winning... work it out fir yourself!' Useless! ...and where's Boris now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Just now, ozzie said: SWC planned to be every 3rd year if I'm not mistaken, so 2026 next SWC? thanks for that Ozzie, it's near impossible to keep up with the way that they change things. Thought tonight's was best speedway I have seen in donkeys year. Lucky you to have been there to witness it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, ozzie said: SWC planned to be every 3rd year if I'm not mistaken, so 2026 next SWC? Ugh. Return of the SoN? When the SoN was introduced the Poles were never going to be beaten in a 4 man format. The Poles cruised the previous two SWC's 2016 SoN & 2017 Leszno. Tonight has proved that is no longer the case. There is nothing wrong with the 2 man format, it's just not as good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, mikebv said: I believe we should have had Richard Lawson... I mean Steve(ie):Worrall... Or Pete Smith.. Or naybe even Neil Middleditch... If we were truly serious about winning the SWC we would have.... I never actually realised until tonight on here,, that Championship HL's were as good as genuine World Class Speedway riders... Truly amazed every World Class rider doesn't make it his ambition to ride at Poole in the 2nd Division... A seamless transition to the GPs apparently... I would imagine that Magic tonight is so grateful he rode there... You got to love the Poole mafia …. Speedway World Cup and still they pollute threads lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 No complaints about any riders or lack of effort,but I think we outthought ourselves with the Bewley situation at reserve.Should have just trusted Adam or Tom at reserve and swapped around if required. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fromafar said: No complaints about any riders or lack of effort,but I think we outthought ourselves with the Bewley situation at reserve.Should have just trusted Adam or Tom at reserve and swapped around if required. I think Bewley at reserve was fine …. Just that Adam was quicker than Tom tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gavan said: I think Bewley at reserve was fine …. Just that Adam was quicker than Tom tonight Fair enough but you couldn’t swap them round.Dan did get extra ride but was sitting about too long IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 41 minutes ago, Fromafar said: But even these races he had to pass opponents ,he was last coming out the 2 nd bend in most of his races. He's "Out of the top drawer" ! sheer box office almost every race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Just now, Fromafar said: Fair enough but you couldn’t swap them round.Dan did get extra ride but was sitting about too long IMO. Yeah, Bewley didn't have a ride for 6-8 heats on the trot, which corresponded with Woffinden's form disappearing. So the Two riders who knew the track best had nothing for their team mates. It also put an awful lot of pressure on Bewkey in his first World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 52 minutes ago, Fromafar said: No complaints about any riders or lack of effort,but I think we outthought ourselves with the Bewley situation at reserve.Should have just trusted Adam or Tom at reserve and swapped around if required. The theory was sound - in theory! It's amazing how much thought goes into stuff like this, but in practice, it rarely turns out the way it was planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryW Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Great entertainment with close scores and close racing tonight. I'm not a fan, but what a brilliant ride from Janowski under huge pressure in the last race. He's not the man I would have picked to take the pressure last race, but he delivered spectacularly. SWC is just so much better than the SoN...Please tell me that we don't have to wait 3 years to see this again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted July 29, 2023 Report Share Posted July 29, 2023 Superb effort by Team GB . We all expected Poland to win but to run them so close and then lose in the last heat is so disappointing. All of the team contributed, no more than Ellis for his 2pts when I was cursing that Bewley wasn't used as a reserve ride. It was a superb meeting and great event for speedway. Close but no cigar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, Hackett said: Superb effort by Team GB . We all expected Poland to win but to run them so close and then lose in the last heat is so disappointing. All of the team contributed, no more than Ellis for his 2pts when I was cursing that Bewley wasn't used as a reserve ride. It was a superb meeting and great event for speedway. Close but no cigar. Agree 100 percent, top effort by team GB and a great meeting as well, unless you were there in the moment probably harsh to comment on decisions made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 6:04 AM, chunky said: POL 30 - Zmarzlik 15, Dudek 8, Janowski 7. DEN 24 - Madsen 11, Thomsen 7, Michelsen 6. GBR 35 - Bewley 13, Lambert 11, Woffinden 11. AUS 37 - Holder 14, Doyle 13, Fricke 10. Now, let's look at my rough forecast from Thursday... Poland - Bartek didn't reach the 15, but Janowski was spot on, and Dudek was close. Denmark - Madsen was top scorer (as I thought he would be), Thomsen was only a couple out, and I over-rated Michelsen. GB - Bewley wasn't as good as we thought (or hoped), Woffy should have been closer (considering the start he had), and Lambert was pretty damn close. Australia - Jack Holder would probably have been closer, while Doyle was top scorer instead of second-highest. I clearly over-estimated Fricke. So, I did say that while the Aussies appeared to be the strongest on paper, a lot depended on Fricken and Lidsey; and that is why they failed. Denmark had Jensen, and nobody expected that performance. GB had both Bewley and Woffinden under-performing, which proved their undoing. One good race from either (when they slipped up), and we would have had it, but Kubera made the difference for Poland. Kubera and Jensen were the two I hadn't listed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Col said: Ugh. Return of the SoN? When the SoN was introduced the Poles were never going to be beaten in a 4 man format. The Poles cruised the previous two SWC's 2016 SoN & 2017 Leszno. Tonight has proved that is no longer the case. There is nothing wrong with the 2 man format, it's just not as good! I also prefer SWC, but SON is better if you want more countries to be able to be competitive. SoN requires only two good riders which widens potential participating countries and how competitive they are. I think both complement each other, but should be every other year and GB with Lambert + Bewley DK with Madsen + Jensen Swe with Lindgren + LIndbäck PL with Bart + Kubera Lat with Lebedevs + Gusts Cze with Milik + Kvech RUS with Laguta + Emil France with Berge and Bellego. These are fairly strong teams even if all of them are perhaps not title candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 Thoroughly enjoyed last night’s meeting. A real shame that we couldn’t get it over the line. After binning it and costing Poland the SoN final the other year though it was a nice redemption moment for Janowski. While I’m glad we’re not having a World Cup every year (it devalues the tournament), I do wonder how competitive we will be in 2026. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Ghostwalker said: I also prefer SWC, but SON is better if you want more countries to be able to be competitive. SoN requires only two good riders which widens potential participating countries and how competitive they are. I think both complement each other, but should be every other year and GB with Lambert + Bewley DK with Madsen + Jensen Swe with Lindgren + LIndbäck PL with Bart + Kubera Lat with Lebedevs + Gusts Cze with Milik + Kvech RUS with Laguta + Emil France with Berge and Bellego. These are fairly strong teams even if all of them are perhaps not title candidates. In all respect but I do not believe Artem and Emil will be representing Russia any time soon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: In all respect but I do not believe Artem and Emil will be representing Russia any time soon..... they could represent the lgbtq community you like Liverpool are doing the pride march because Kiev cant do it, its only fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted July 30, 2023 Report Share Posted July 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, Ben91 said: Thoroughly enjoyed last night’s meeting. A real shame that we couldn’t get it over the line. After binning it and costing Poland the SoN final the other year though it was a nice redemption moment for Janowski. While I’m glad we’re not having a World Cup every year (it devalues the tournament), I do wonder how competitive we will be in 2026. Brennan and an other could step up in that time whilst Lambert and Bewley will be in there prime…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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