OveFundinFan Posted August 14, 2023 Report Share Posted August 14, 2023 The mind boggles as to could be in the 2024 GPs. My opinion is Holder/Doyle/Vaculik have done enough this year to warrant a ticket for next year irrespective of the GP Challange result. So it’s 3 from the rest. Have the Pawlickis bounced back to something good such that one or both are worthy, is Wozniak worthy, could Lebedevs do a 10 gp season at a high level. They are the serious contenders IMO and I have my doubt. I shall be waiting with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 3 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: My opinion is Holder/Doyle/Vaculik have done enough this year to warrant a ticket for next year irrespective of the GP Challange result. Not just YOUR opinion. Vaculik should finish Top 6. Despite all the negative Nancies on here, Doyle has clearly proven himself one of the top boys still, and I would be surprised if he didn't finish Top 6. Likewise, I'm convinced that Holder would have finished Top 6 were it not for his injury, so there's another automatic choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) I really hope Shamek Pawlicki gets in as he’s been superb all season in Poland and Sweden and looks to be back to his best. You’d assume Vaculik and Doyle will finish in the top 3 so we are then looking at the next best to get into the GPs - quite possibly Lebedevs and I hope Wozniak, along with Pawlicki could dump Janowski and Dudek out of the GPs especially if Kubera gets his warranted wildcard too Edited August 15, 2023 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted August 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) Looks as if Lambert will replace Holder on Saturday as he tops the FIM list of injury replacements ! Lambert 2 Berntzon 3 M Hansen 4 Ellis Edited August 15, 2023 by racers and royals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 Should be top 8 in GP stay in anyway, whoever finishes 7th and 8th will always get a pick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Najjer said: I really hope Shamek Pawlicki gets in as he’s been superb all season in Poland and Sweden and looks to be back to his best. You’d assume Vaculik and Doyle will finish in the top 3 so we are then looking at the next best to get into the GPs - quite possibly Lebedevs and I hope Wozniak, along with Pawlicki could dump Janowski and Dudek out of the GPs especially if Kubera gets his warranted wildcard too Janowski has had a real form slump over the last couple of season,no real injury problems, hard to fathom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 4 hours ago, bruno said: Should be top 8 in GP stay in anyway, whoever finishes 7th and 8th will always get a pick I’m sure that’s how it used to be, and there were a load of moans on here. They changed it and there are still a load of moans on here. There are 10 gp’s in a year, in theory 15 of the very top speedway riders, not everyone can live up to it. Obviously need the ability, but the rider needs to be extremely fit, have very good sponsors (money), an excellent support team (mechanics etc). So many look good but when they get there it just doesn’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 If a GP rider qualifies through this but then finishes in the top 6 in the GPs will fourth place rider in this qualify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, eric i said: If a GP rider qualifies through this but then finishes in the top 6 in the GPs will fourth place rider in this qualify? That’s what’s happened in previous seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: That’s what’s happened in previous seasons If thats the case with Doyle and Lambet in the line up there is quite a high chance that 4th place could qualify for the gps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, eric i said: If thats the case with Doyle and Lambet in the line up there is quite a high chance that 4th place could qualify for the gps. And Vaculik.Yip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, OveFundinFan said: I’m sure that’s how it used to be, and there were a load of moans on here. They changed it and there are still a load of moans on here. There are 10 gp’s in a year, in theory 15 of the very top speedway riders, not everyone can live up to it. Obviously need the ability, but the rider needs to be extremely fit, have very good sponsors (money), an excellent support team (mechanics etc). So many look good but when they get there it just doesn’t work. Well, what is the point of only having top 6 if nr 7 and 8 always will get a wild card anyway? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 15, 2023 Report Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghostwalker said: Well, what is the point of only having top 6 if nr 7 and 8 always will get a wild card anyway? But no 7 and 8 don’t necessarily always get a wildcard. It gives the organisers the opportunity not to give a wc to either of 7 or 8, but if the organisers deem it fit to give wc to 7 or 8 or both then they can. It is more flexibility in the hands of the organisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Anyone seen racing at Gislaved, or know what the track is like? I have Google map it and it looks rather narrow. If Doyle and Vaculik get a top 3, and the Poles don’t like it, it could lead to an awful situation where those that shouldn’t qualify mess up the Gp’ for 2024. Those 3 riders from this (plus 1 from SEC) are in 2024 for 10 GPs barring injury. Looks like a small training track plus what looks like a motox track next to it as well. And next to an in industrial site. Perhaps this what the likes of Wolverhampton should look at for a new site…. Speedway, smaller training track, go kart or motox track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 Decent track, big/long (380 m), sometimes good racing,, sometimes not so good racing. The small track is for youth speedway (85 cc) so not a training track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted August 16, 2023 Report Share Posted August 16, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ghostwalker said: Decent track, big/long (380 m), sometimes good racing,, sometimes not so good racing. The small track is for youth speedway (85 cc) so not a training track. What’s your opinion……. Would you spend £15 on a stream????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyMadTom Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 Any update on Holder or who is his replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzo558 Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, CrazyMadTom said: Any update on Holder or who is his replacement Already been mentioned in this thread, Lambert is the replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted August 17, 2023 Report Share Posted August 17, 2023 18 hours ago, OveFundinFan said: What’s your opinion……. Would you spend £15 on a stream????? hmm, probably not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welwyn Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 9:35 PM, OveFundinFan said: What’s your opinion……. Would you spend £15 on a stream????? From where?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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