Edinburgh 2023

[Justgotmecpc]

13 hours ago, Endeavour said:

It’s called expressing an opinion. I am more than happy we are running next year.

[cinderfella]

So Kyle Bickley completes his set of signing for all the Northern teams.

Quite a change going from the bigger tracks of Workington, Glasgow and Berwick to the tighter Armadale.

Hopefully the change will bring out the potential said to be there.

[JanAndersen]

Might not have been my first choice but he’ll absolutely get my support. Welcome Kyle. 

[Mr Blobby]

Probably one of the stronger number 7s in the league with a lot of teams running 2 pointers I’d fancy him to beat them majority of the time home and away. 
 

As a club we’re quite good at bringing on young riders so hopefully we’ll be able to do the same with Kyle as he has the potential to put a put at least on that average.

[Midget]

2 hours ago, cinderfella said:

So Kyle Bickley completes his set of signing for all the Northern teams.

Quite a change going from the bigger tracks of Workington, Glasgow and Berwick to the tighter Armadale.

Hopefully the change will bring out the potential said to be there.

Bickley is a extremely poor signing. Hasnt progressed one single bit since being at workington in 2018, infact if anything he has declined 

Edited December 7, 2022 by Midget

[Mr Blobby]

7 minutes ago, Midget said:

Bickley is an extremely poor signing. Hasnt progressed one single bit since being at workington in 2018, infact if anything he has declined 

Is it though? Much weaker league were a lot of teams are running either one or two 2.00 riders. I’d fancy him to beat them more often that not home and away. If doing that I’d fancy him to get 4/5 points a meeting which is doing his job at 7. 
 

Also now at a track he’s always scored reasonably well at and will help boost his confidence and he won’t be put under any pressure.

Edited December 7, 2022 by Mr Blobby

[Fromafar]

15 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Is it though? Much weaker league were a lot of teams are running either one or two 2.00 riders. I’d fancy him to beat them more often that not home and away. If doing that I’d fancy him to get 4/5 points a meeting which is doing his job at 7. 
 

Also now at a track he’s always scored reasonably well at and will help boost his confidence and he won’t be put under any pressure.

If he doesn’t improve significantly this season from a reserve position in a very weak league there’s something wrong.

[Wee Eck]

41 minutes ago, Mr Blobby said:

Also now at a track he’s always scored reasonably well at and will help boost his confidence and he won’t be put under any pressure.

All riders should feel under pressure - from within, from their promoters, their family and their fans. Do you not think Bartosz Zmarzlik feels under pressure?
I have been aware of Kyle since his British Youth Championship years when there were three stand out riders - Kyle, Tom Brennan and Leon Flint. When Kyle was 15, he was the best of these three but seems to have lost his way and I don’t know why.

I was aware that there was great family pressure on him to succeed so maybe that didn’t help. But then Brennan and Flint were also being pushed by their families. Maybe the difference was these two weren’t being promoted to would be sponsors to the same extent?

I would love this to be Kyle’s breakthrough year and for him to put the past behind him. I gather he’s got a job outside speedway which has to help - being a full time rider at his level (indeed, at many levels) isn’t really a proper job. His actual average seems to be under 3 so there’s loads of room for improvement. 

[Bagpuss]

At a massive crossroads in his career, hopefully this move will kick-start things for him again. One of those riders who has found the jump from NL to Champs too big unfortunately. 

[Jaizer]

Bickley seems to have followed a similar career trajectory as jack Thomas until 2 years ago. Jack signed for us as a teenager and looked a prospect but stagnated as a 2/3 pointer for 3/4 years. Penny seemed to drop at Birmingham in 2021 and looks a totally different rider nowadays (on steal of an average too imo).

Hopefully same thing happens with Kyle, might never be world champion but sure can have a decent career at it 

[davie10]

7 hours ago, Jaizer said:

Bickley seems to have followed a similar career trajectory as jack Thomas until 2 years ago. Jack signed for us as a teenager and looked a prospect but stagnated as a 2/3 pointer for 3/4 years. Penny seemed to drop at Birmingham in 2021 and looks a totally different rider nowadays (on steal of an average too imo).

Hopefully same thing happens with Kyle, might never be world champion but sure can have a decent career at it 

he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track 

 

[cinderfella]

36 minutes ago, davie10 said:

he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track 

 

Are you think of a different Jack?

[arnieg]

41 minutes ago, davie10 said:

he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track 

 

So I imagined him winning the FIM Youth Gold Trophy did I?

Of course he was a prospect.

(And he undoubtedly has failed to live up to early expectations)

[cinderfella]

3 minutes ago, arnieg said:

So I imagined him winning the FIM Youth Gold Trophy did I?

Of course he was a prospect.

(And he undoubtedly has failed to live up to early expectations)

I think part of the problem was the public perception of him coming across as a cocky wee git especially when the photograph of him making hand gestures when he was captain of the BV Colts surfaced. I've heard stories from other riders, mechanics etc who find an arrogance about him but I'm sure the Edinburgh Promotion are more than capable of handling that.

He undoubted lost direction when he lost his grandfather but that was few years ago now and perhaps he should have found another mentor to get him back on track (no pun intended)

[Jaizer]

1 hour ago, davie10 said:

he was never a prospect he only relied on the name never showed any promise on track 

 

Think you've got your jack's crossed

[Fina]

1 hour ago, cinderfella said:

I think part of the problem was the public perception of him coming across as a cocky wee git especially when the photograph of him making hand gestures when he was captain of the BV Colts surfaced. I've heard stories from other riders, mechanics etc who find an arrogance about him but I'm sure the Edinburgh Promotion are more than capable of handling that.

He undoubted lost direction when he lost his grandfather but that was few years ago now and perhaps he should have found another mentor to get him back on track (no pun intended)

I have only known and dealt with Kyle since late in last year & absolutely no hint of arrogance about him as far as I am concerned.  That is one of the reasons I sponsored him this year, ahead of a couple of others who were initially higher up my list, but couldn't be bothered with me when I first tried to contact them.

 

[Fromafar]

Kyle must be the only rider in Championship  to have 3 FULL SEASONS at reserve with the Clubs he has been signed by.Really needs to start showing more if he wants to go somewhere in the sport.Also season in Poland u/24 league.Not many young riders get these chances.

[Midget]

Iv never really seen the hype with bickley, there is no natural ability, he just looks like a kid that has had a lot of track time, he rides the bike around instead of racing it round. Imo he won't progress from his current level. 

[cinderfella]

42 minutes ago, Midget said:

Iv never really seen the hype with bickley, there is no natural ability, he just looks like a kid that has had a lot of track time, he rides the bike around instead of racing it round. Imo he won't progress from his current level. 

I wholeheartedly agree.

I think confidence has a lot to do with it. At NDL level he knows he has the beating of anyone but at after ht 2 at CL level his mind has him beat before the tapes are up.

Considering his time at BV with the Colts all the signs were surely there when The Aces didn't stick with him.

[mc131]

3 hours ago, cinderfella said:

I wholeheartedly agree.

I think confidence has a lot to do with it. At NDL level he knows he has the beating of anyone but at after ht 2 at CL level his mind has him beat before the tapes are up.

Considering his time at BV with the Colts all the signs were surely there when The Aces didn't stick with him.

he's beat top cl riders even last year he did, he knows himself that has to be more often all the ability is there I personally feel he has to more aggressive.