Glasgow 2023

[lewy]

So far the Glasgow team look box office, will definitely put numbers on attendances wherever they go. Vissing final rider will be a good signing also. 

[cinderfella]

7 hours ago, Zander said:

A 4 point aussie plenty out there 

Bit risky effectively having two rookies in the team.

The leagues could well be decides by the reserves and/or new faces this year and there is little point in building a strong top end if the lower end is going to haemorrhage points.

I think Oxford may well be a good example of that and equally depending on who Glasgow name as their 7th rider we could be in the same boat.

In an ideal world you want your s/s to be able to beat visiting h/ls occasionally and equally your reserves to be capable of beating visiting s/s.

 

[Fromafar]

1 hour ago, cinderfella said:

Bit risky effectively having two rookies in the team.

The leagues could well be decides by the reserves and/or new faces this year and there is little point in building a strong top end if the lower end is going to haemorrhage points.

I think Oxford may well be a good example of that and equally depending on who Glasgow name as their 7th rider we could be in the same boat.

In an ideal world you want your s/s to be able to beat visiting h/ls occasionally and equally your reserves to be capable of beating visiting s/s.

 

Agree,I also think you need 1 decent reserve that can score big away.Glasgow beat a few Teams at home because their reserves were very good at home.Their Heat leaders could be a bit hit or miss on the night.

[jenga]

1 hour ago, Fromafar said:

Agree,I also think you need 1 decent reserve that can score big away.Glasgow beat a few Teams at home because their reserves were very good at home.Their Heat leaders could be a bit hit or miss on the night.

Mason Campton  (2018) you had him at one point , then sold him to Wucky . team looks okay tho . as have all the other teams put together by s.t.c. ....

[ragdoll64]

4 hours ago, Gazc said:

Have we not got just over 5 left for the final rider a Vissing type rider I assumed.

Correct……. but someone was saying that they would prefer a 4 point rookie Aussie over Complin. 

[Cast1rn]

4 hours ago, cinderfella said:

Bit risky effectively having two rookies in the team.

The leagues could well be decides by the reserves and/or new faces this year and there is little point in building a strong top end if the lower end is going to haemorrhage points.

I think Oxford may well be a good example of that and equally depending on who Glasgow name as their 7th rider we could be in the same boat.

In an ideal world you want your s/s to be able to beat visiting h/ls occasionally and equally your reserves to be capable of beating visiting s/s.

 

Completely agree, the common theme seems to be 4 pointer at 6, 2 pointer at 7.

Oxford going two x 2 pointers means if they make their average , the rest of the team need to average 2.1 per heat, loosely translated as Kerr and Masters have to maintain there average and then some to carry the team.

Will be interesting come September to see which was the right way to go.

[szkocjasid]

2 hours ago, Cast1rn said:

Completely agree, the common theme seems to be 4 pointer at 6, 2 pointer at 7.

Oxford going two x 2 pointers means if they make their average , the rest of the team need to average 2.1 per heat, loosely translated as Kerr and Masters have to maintain there average and then some to carry the team.

Will be interesting come September to see which was the right way to go.

I would suggest Oxford build their team on the basis of Atkins & Killeen upping their starting averages & not depending on the top 5 winning matches on their own. Personally I think they are amongst the weaker 2.00 riders & that Oxford will struggle.

[Cast1rn]

I would just say having a look across the league this season were there any two pointers that improved ? 

 

[Jaizer]

6 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

I would just say having a look across the league this season were there any two pointers that improved ? 

 

Edwards would be the obvious one

[Fromafar]

15 minutes ago, Cast1rn said:

I would just say having a look across the league this season were there any two pointers that improved ? 

 

The Thompsons,Jordan Jenkins.

[Noelinho]

8 hours ago, lewy said:

So far the Glasgow team look box office, will definitely put numbers on attendances wherever they go. Vissing final rider will be a good signing also. 

Just need them to add to the attendance at Ashfield! Hopefully the promoters can get some good promotion early in the season, or just before it, and not right before a three month break for the playoff semi final...

[cinderfella]

23 minutes ago, Noelinho said:

Just need them to add to the attendance at Ashfield! Hopefully the promoters can get some good promotion early in the season, or just before it, and not right before a three month break for the playoff semi final...

All Promoters at every team need to start doing just that or the sport will die on it's ar5e before much longer.

Stupid Mickey Mouse competitions and unnecessary periods of inactivity as we've witnessed this season have to binned.

[Beirao]

1 hour ago, cinderfella said:

All Promoters at every team need to start doing just that or the sport will die on it's ar5e before much longer.

Stupid Mickey Mouse competitions and unnecessary periods of inactivity as we've witnessed this season have to binned.

More than ever promoters need to get their pricing right. Putting up admission prices at a time domestic finances are under pressures that haven't been experienced in years is a recipe for disaster - and at a time when the Championship has been watered down. It's may be not the time to be speculating by spending heavily on advertising campaigns. 

I'd happily have accepted Stupid Mickey Mouse competitions to break up a completely barren couple of months. Not agreeing dates for these competitions was bordering on criminal. 

[Joseq7]

18 minutes ago, Beirao said:

More than ever promoters need to get their pricing right. Putting up admission prices at a time domestic finances are under pressures that haven't been experienced in years is a recipe for disaster - and at a time when the Championship has been watered down. It's may be not the time to be speculating by spending heavily on advertising campaigns. 

I'd happily have accepted Stupid Mickey Mouse competitions to break up a completely barren couple of months. Not agreeing dates for these competitions was bordering on criminal. 

I couldn't agree more.

However, the Glasgow promotion will 100% increase admission charges, or I'll eat my hat. 

[Ghosty]

2 hours ago, Noelinho said:

Just need them to add to the attendance at Ashfield! Hopefully the promoters can get some good promotion early in the season, or just before it, and not right before a three month break for the playoff semi final...

I've been saying for ages, I would love to see (@ all tracks) as much effort put into getting bums on seats as in team building. I've never been aware of the BSPL or it's predecessor ever holding any seminars on promoting or selling the sport!  

[JanAndersen]

Going head to head with Edinburgh on a Friday evening was a bad move IMO. Sunday afternoon is more family friendly and you would get the odd punter coming along the M8 for their fix. 

[Jaizer]

3 minutes ago, JanAndersen said:

Going head to head with Edinburgh on a Friday evening was a bad move IMO. Sunday afternoon is more family friendly and you would get the odd punter coming along the M8 for their fix. 

Couldn't get riders for a Sunday is why needed to change. Ideally wouldn't be same night but Sundays weren't working for that reason imo

[Beirao]

1 minute ago, Jaizer said:

Couldn't get riders for a Sunday is why needed to change. Ideally wouldn't be same night but Sundays weren't working for that reason imo

Don't think so. The owners hoped that we'd getter better crowds on what was once our traditional race night and one that was possible again once floodlights had been installed. 

[Jaizer]

Just now, Beirao said:

Don't think so. The owners hoped that we'd getter better crowds on what was once our traditional race night and one that was possible again once floodlights had been installed. 

It's part of it but rider availability on Sundays makes it very hard. Finding it impossible to make changes through the season. And that goes back to dick and Dickson era I believe. How many riders did Rob grant (allegedly) speak to to make changes at Newcastle? Wouldn't have 4 of this year's team if raced on Sundays as an example 

[cinderfella]

15 minutes ago, Ghosty said:

I've been saying for ages, I would love to see (@ all tracks) as much effort put into getting bums on seats as in team building. I've never been aware of the BSPL or it's predecessor ever holding any seminars on promoting or selling the sport!  

That's a bit of a Catch 22 - the BSPL is the promoters so them teaching themselves isn't going to get them anywhere f they don't know how to start with.

 

We need an independent ruling body if the sport is to survive because as things stand each promoter votes on what they see as beneficial to their own team and they ignore the bigger picture.