Glasgow 2023

[scunny1]

20 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

The plan is to get rid of the 9/10 point riders to make it cheaper. The same promoters who vote for that plan, then fill their teams with top heat leaders & 2.00 reserves, meaning the 4/5/6 point riders may miss out!

Well, it doesn't look like the Chairman was part of that promotors group, looking at the bottom end of the Scorpions team.

[Fromafar]

26 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

The plan is to get rid of the 9/10 point riders to make it cheaper. The same promoters who vote for that plan, then fill their teams with top heat leaders & 2.00 reserves, meaning the 4/5/6 point riders may miss out!

To the detriment of the racing IMO.

[ragdoll64]

7 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

While he still entertaining ,personally I think he is only interest in making money by riding 7 days a week if possible.Surprised if Glasgow have him back( sounds like it by rumours ) he has a high average, but I suppose the league I’d diluted again so should do OK.Think the fans would rather have Lawson.

Don’t think he’ll be short of a few bob and don’t think he’s just in it for the money. He has a passion for riding bikes and winning. 

[Fromafar]

56 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Think broc, like Conner might struggle to get himself a team place on his average. Feels like going to be quite a few out of work to start the season. Ruml & kemp would be another 2. 

Quite surprised if nobody wants Ruml.Looked a decent improver.

[Fromafar]

Just now, ragdoll64 said:

Don’t think he’ll be short of a few bob and don’t think he’s just in it for the money. He has a passion for riding bikes and winning. 

It’s only 2-3 seasons ago he was moaning he couldn’t make it pay if he wasn’t doubling up.

[ragdoll64]

1 minute ago, Fromafar said:

It’s only 2-3 seasons ago he was moaning he couldn’t make it pay if he wasn’t doubling up.

They all say that…….lol

[Wee Eck]

2 hours ago, Jaizer said:

Think broc, like Conner might struggle to get himself a team place on his average. Feels like going to be quite a few out of work to start the season. Ruml & kemp would be another 2. 

This is a competitive sport which means that it’s rare for good riders to be struggling for a team place. The others often seem to have an expectation of payment level which exceeds their worth so have to wait until reality hits them or desperation hits a promoter. 
In 2022, we had several teams struggling for riders which meant that we had the farce of Birmingham and Plymouth signing riders in short term deals - but omitting to tell the paying public that’s what they’d done. With two less tracks in 2023, here’s hoping that doesn’t happen again.

As far as the four riders mentioned are concerned, neither Bailey nor Nicol have made much progress for a couple of years now so do they deserve a place anywhere? They’ll probably get one though. Ruml has been steady if unspectacular so is worth a risk by someone, and Kemp put nearly 2 points on his average, much of it riding at number 4, so don’t write him off. But boy does he need to improve his attitude!

[cinderfella]

3 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

This is a competitive sport which means that it’s rare for good riders to be struggling for a team place. The others often seem to have an expectation of payment level which exceeds their worth so have to wait until reality hits them or desperation hits a promoter. 
In 2022, we had several teams struggling for riders which meant that we had the farce of Birmingham and Plymouth signing riders in short term deals - but omitting to tell the paying public that’s what they’d done. With two less tracks in 2023, here’s hoping that doesn’t happen again.

As far as the four riders mentioned are concerned, neither Bailey nor Nicol have made much progress for a couple of years now so do they deserve a place anywhere? They’ll probably get one though. Ruml has been steady if unspectacular so is worth a risk by someone, and Kemp put nearly 2 points on his average, much of it riding at number 4, so don’t write him off. But boy does he need to improve his attitude!

It would certainly be sad if two Brits lost team places especially when they have shown potential yet another rider who seems to have been around more tracks than seasons seems to wanted despite, I'd argue, not making any progress.

Strange sport speedway run by even stranger people

[Fromafar]

1 minute ago, cinderfella said:

It would certainly be sad if two Brits lost team places especially when they have shown potential yet another rider who seems to have been around more tracks than seasons seems to wanted despite, I'd argue, not making any progress.

Strange sport speedway run by even stranger people

Find lowering the points limit quite strange,if it was for financial reasons why just not set cap on riders Points Money,they seem to think limiting a signing on fee will solve problems so do the same with the points money( we know none of this will be adhered to anyway).Diluting the standard and expecting fans to pay the same or more Admission is not going to be the answer.Intersting what Admission prices will be at certain track this season.

[ragdoll64]

22 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Find lowering the points limit quite strange,if it was for financial reasons why just not set cap on riders Points Money,they seem to think limiting a signing on fee will solve problems so do the same with the points money( we know none of this will be adhered to anyway).Diluting the standard and expecting fans to pay the same or more Admission is not going to be the answer.Intersting what Admission prices will be at certain track this season.

No different from any other part of life though, Fromafar……….we’re paying more for less of everything these days as far as I can see. 

[Fromafar]

5 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said:

No different from any other part of life though, Fromafar……….we’re paying more for less of everything these days as far as I can see. 

Would have to agree there.Problem now is priorities and Speedway might suffer more than others given the shambles it became last season.

[Jaizer]

3 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

Would have to agree there.Problem now is priorities and Speedway might suffer more than others given the shambles it became last season.

Exactly essentials can do nothing about. But speedway and all leisure activities really need to have a look at themselves. If we go to 20quid a skull just for entry then that's probably going to be out of my comfort zone and will probably pick and choose my meetings. Throw in program, seat in the stands, raffle ticket you're at 30quid before you've had an irn bru.

[cinderfella]

23 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Exactly essentials can do nothing about. But speedway and all leisure activities really need to have a look at themselves. If we go to 20quid a skull just for entry then that's probably going to be out of my comfort zone and will probably pick and choose my meetings. Throw in program, seat in the stands, raffle ticket you're at 30quid before you've had an irn bru.

There's a lot speedway has to adjust too.

One of my pet hates in speedway is when a rider is unfortunate to have machinery wrecked in an off and then the cap is put round to help him

Jeez if a joiner working in your house breaks a drill bit or blunts a saw he doesn't expect you to buy him new tools so why should speedway riders?

Their bikes are their tools of the trade and most riders must make a reasonable living otherwise they would be doing something else.

A collection for an injured rider who's earnings may be down for a month or so is a different matter but insurance and the BEN Fund should help in those circumstances.

Speedway will certainly have to cut it's cloth to suit and I still don't understand why it has to be specialised engines running on specialised fuel.

 

Edited November 28, 2022 by cinderfella
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[ch958]

23 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

Exactly essentials can do nothing about. But speedway and all leisure activities really need to have a look at themselves. If we go to 20quid a skull just for entry then that's probably going to be out of my comfort zone and will probably pick and choose my meetings. Throw in program, seat in the stands, raffle ticket you're at 30quid before you've had an irn bru.

if people are cutting down on heating then speedway has no chance

[screm]

Nobody should pay more than £15 for a night at a speedway meeting IMO

[cinderfella]

7 minutes ago, screm said:

Nobody should pay more than £15 for a night at a speedway meeting IMO

Yeah when you consider you get upwards of 16+ races over 16+ laps each with 20+ cars at Cowdenbeath Stock Cars you have to question the value speedway offers?

[ragdoll64]

20 minutes ago, cinderfella said:

Yeah when you consider you get upwards of 16+ races over 16+ laps each with 20+ cars at Cowdenbeath Stock Cars you have to question the value speedway offers?

Not the best comparison though……..Stock Car racing isn’t a professional sport. Only the best over a season get a financial bung as far as I know so not anywhere near the expense of running a Speedway club. 

[LisaColette]

7 minutes ago, ragdoll64 said:

Not the best comparison though……..Stock Car racing isn’t a professional sport. Only the best over a season get a financial bung as far as I know so not anywhere near the expense of running a Speedway club. 

Also stadium rent will also play a part on how much admission is? Prob a fine balancing act between not making a huge loss and overcharging fans. 

[Jaizer]

2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Also stadium rent will also play a part on how much admission is? Prob a fine balancing act between not making a huge loss and overcharging fans. 

We own our stadium, don't have any rent

[Fromafar]

2 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Also stadium rent will also play a part on how much admission is? Prob a fine balancing act between not making a huge loss and overcharging fans. 

Easy solution though is don’t overpay the riders.