szkocjasid Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: If indeed anyone has kicked off about it, its just as likely (more?) to be Scunny! Incidentally I gather the delay is down to Glasgow wanting an immediate facility for the Pole had it been announced today without him being available til later in the week. Glasgow wouldn't be due a facility for their new rider, but can use r/r for Nowak. When Edinburgh announced Clegg, he didn't start till the Friday & they used a facility for Fredriksen for two matches (Plymouth & Poole away from memory) till Clegg signed, Glasgow could have done the same Edited August 22, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Surely the problem is signing a new rider, redeclaring and then wanting a full 'facility' to cover his absence before he's ridden for the club, rather than the 75% guest facility? Why would they even try to do that though? They have 28 days to replace Nowak, can easily wait till Friday to use Wojdylo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 22, 2023 Report Share Posted August 22, 2023 10 hours ago, IronScorpion said: I thought you could not gain an average LESS than your assessed average? Rew was re-assessed from 5 to 4 when Emil was brought in but I do not know why the ruling changed. A riders average can drop below his assessed average, but 4.00 is the minimum for foreigners. That's why last year Jacob Hook couldn't drop his assessed average (4.00) but Lasse Fredriksen (5.00) could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Why would they even try to do that though? They have 28 days to replace Nowak, can easily wait till Friday to use Wojdylo A replacement rider must be done by 28th August. It was suggested that 'its hoped a new rider would be in place for the Wednesday meeting'! Somebody didn't check he was booked in Denmark. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: A replacement rider must be done by 28th August. It was suggested that 'its hoped a new rider would be in place for the Wednesday meeting'! Somebody didn't check he was booked in Denmark. Theres still plenty time to get Wojdylo signed up before the 28th, just pointing out they could use r/r before signing him, not after. The first thing they should do is check a new riders availability, pretty daft if they tried to sign him for Wednesday, if his first match was to be on Friday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 15 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Is there actually any evidence we have a problem with it? No, thought not. who mentioned Poole had a problem with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, therefused said: who mentioned Poole had a problem with it? 17 hours ago, Weeyin said: I wonder who ? A team with a history of manipulation is my guess 17 hours ago, Jaizer said: That was my thoughts all along people (person) on the management committees nose out of joint and fighting against it. Can't think any other sport where this can happen 17 hours ago, K7KDD said: Yep no doubt...... Lets focus on our plastic trophy on our guff track and do all we can to try not facing a team that is not at full capacity.......well done, NOT. Show some balls and face a team fair and square as per the rule book and cut the nonsense out..........or are you that scared!!!??? Plastic trophy, plastic champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 No one mentioned Poole in any of those comments? Not everything revolves around your team 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, therefused said: No one mentioned Poole in any of those comments? Not everything revolves around your team So you dont think those comments refer to Poole!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, therefused said: No one mentioned Poole in any of those comments? Not everything revolves around your team You know as well as i do who there on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, therefused said: No one mentioned Poole in any of those comments? Not everything revolves around your team 7 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: You know as well as i do who there on about Yeah he knows it Poole. One mentioned champions, who else is that ! Plus he started it off by saying which club when mac101 said clubs. Edited August 23, 2023 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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foreverblue Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 42 minutes ago, therefused said: Not vain but we have to be thick skinned! Great song though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinBSN Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Cast1rn said: I've read it cover to cover it helps massively with insomnia. It is as clear as mud and even then I'd have to take my glasses off to try and make sense of it. "Riders match averages will be calculated off all eligible races"(I'm paraphrasing )is complete and utter bollox. They use number of points /number of heats X 4. When I saw that I calculated based on Nowaks heats and realised it was X4, then I knew that it was utter nonsense and the rest of the rulebook reaffirmed my first impression. 16..... That's right 16 reason why a facility could be granted it'll probably be up to 17 next year to include "van broke down". Sticking to the Glasgow topic, Great job in Plymouth tonight another £12 will be spent on the Poole stream tomorrow too and hopefully we can improve on last time. Averages are calculated using riders eligible races? Not all meetings/races count towards an average! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 3 hours ago, therefused said: who mentioned Poole had a problem with it? 20 hours ago, Weeyin said: I wonder who ? A team with a history of manipulation is my guess 20 hours ago, Jaizer said: That was my thoughts all along people (person) on the management committees nose out of joint and fighting against it. Can't think any other sport where this can happen 19 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Is there actually any evidence we have a problem with it? No, thought not. 18 hours ago, Skidder1 said: 'Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me'! What a Carry On! 15 hours ago, Skidder1 said: 'You can't handle the truth'! Courtesy 'A Few Good Men!' (NB. Not sexist) 3 hours ago, therefused said: No one mentioned Poole in any of those comments? Not everything revolves around your team 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: So you dont think those comments refer to Poole!!!! 3 hours ago, Arthur54 said: You know as well as i do who there on about "Guilty until proved innocent" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Skidder1 said: If indeed anyone has kicked off about it, its just as likely (more?) to be Scunny! Incidentally I gather the delay is down to Glasgow wanting an immediate facility for the Pole had it been announced today without him being available til later in the week. Why? ... should make play offs but not reach top position! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, MartinBSN said: Averages are calculated using riders eligible races? Not all meetings/races count towards an average! Yes But how it's calculated is wrong, rider scores 4 points in a meeting. Scenario A - has 4 heats gives him a match average of 4 Scenario B - has 3 heats gives him a match average of 5.33 Go through the tapes it goes towards your average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Cast1rn said: Yes But how it's calculated is wrong, rider scores 4 points in a meeting. Scenario A - has 4 heats gives him a match average of 4 Scenario B - has 3 heats gives him a match average of 5.33 Go through the tapes it goes towards your average. I'm sure I've had this argument before, but I'm positive a tape exclusion doesn't count as a ride for the averages (unless not replaced) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: I'm sure I've had this argument before, but I'm positive a tape exclusion doesn't count as a ride for the averages (unless not replaced) Tape exclusions are counted as a ride regardless of whether or not the excluded rider is replaced. Two minute exclusions do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted August 23, 2023 Report Share Posted August 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, arnieg said: Tape exclusions are counted as a ride regardless of whether or not the excluded rider is replaced. Two minute exclusions do not. I'm 99.9% certain they don't, but the next time I see a tape exclusion in a match, I'll look at the riders stats before they are updated & compare them afterwards to see (that I'm right lol) Edited August 23, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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