Gazc Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) On 8/12/2023 at 9:08 AM, cinderfella said: Think the best chance of keeping both (and Brennan) is if (hopefully) the PL and CL amalgamate. Expand Brennan seems very subdued lately, is all the travelling and meetings he is doing having an impact ?. Now I know most riders do it but Tom does a lot of the driving himself I would be very surprised if he returns next season , just my opinion. Edited August 12, 2023 by Gazc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 9:18 AM, Gazc said: Brennan seems very subdued lately, is all the travelling and meetings he is doing having an impact. Now I know most riders do it but Tom does a lot of the driving himself I would be very surprised if he returns next season , just my opinion. Expand He certainly has gone of the boil.Like you say heavy schedule doesn’t help if you don’t have everything in place and just have to turn up.even then travelling can be tiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cast1rn Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) On 8/12/2023 at 9:08 AM, cinderfella said: Think the best chance of keeping both (and Brennan) is if (hopefully) the PL and CL amalgamate. Expand If it does go to one league and I guess this massively depends on how many teams show up for 2024, I wonder what racing night we and all the other championship teams get? Edited August 12, 2023 by Cast1rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Tom doesn't ride the outside like others, and I think that's hurting him at Ashfield. He defaults more to the inside and it's just not the quickest line most weeks. Claus also has an unusual line, which I'm sure is one of the reasons he takes someone out once every two meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 10:07 AM, Cast1rn said: If it does go to one league and I guess this massively depends on how many teams show up for 2024, I wonder what racing night we and all the other championship teams get? Expand I think the majority ie the Championship clubs, will insist on retaining their preferred racenights! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 9:18 AM, Gazc said: Brennan seems very subdued lately, is all the travelling and meetings he is doing having an impact ?. Now I know most riders do it but Tom does a lot of the driving himself I would be very surprised if he returns next season , just my opinion. Expand He may opt not to come back however by keeping him at No5 suppresses his average and makes him very marketable next season should it be us or someone else. The problem with swapping him and Basso around is that if Claus isnt on it, as recently, they become a very weak pairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 10:17 AM, Noelinho said: Tom doesn't ride the outside like others, and I think that's hurting him at Ashfield. He defaults more to the inside and it's just not the quickest line most weeks. Claus also has an unusual line, which I'm sure is one of the reasons he takes someone out once every two meetings. Expand Like Barker says he’s been taking out riders for 10 years.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 10:07 AM, Cast1rn said: If it does go to one league and I guess this massively depends on how many teams show up for 2024, I wonder what racing night we and all the other championship teams get? Expand If the CL teams make up the majority then if common sense prevails the status quo will prevail and if it means GP or foreign riders electing not to ride in the UK then so be it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:01 PM, Fromafar said: Like Barker says he’s been taking out riders for 10 years.!!! Expand Interesting statement from Barker considering! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted August 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:01 PM, Fromafar said: Like Barker says he’s been taking out riders for 10 years.!!! Expand As Paul Bowen says throttle goes both ways lol. Greg Blair even thought barker would go, probably given was pretty similar to his exclusion against claus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelinho Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:24 PM, Jaizer said: As Paul Bowen says throttle goes both ways lol. Greg Blair even thought barker would go, probably given was pretty similar to his exclusion against claus Expand I thought the exclusion was a bit harsh on Claus tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) On 8/12/2023 at 2:26 PM, Noelinho said: I thought the exclusion was a bit harsh on Claus tbh. Expand There are a few refs need to book an appointment with Specsavers (other opticians available)!!! Adam Roynon was was on the wrong end of a decision at Armadale last week and to add insult to injury picked up an 8njury into the bargain. Certain Edinburgh reserve is, to use a Barker quote, going to be taking riders out for years unless he alters his style. Edited August 12, 2023 by cinderfella Spelling mistook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 12:11 PM, cinderfella said: If the CL teams make up the majority then if common sense prevails the status quo will prevail and if it means GP or foreign riders electing not to ride in the UK then so be it. Expand Would think CL teams would keep their regular race nights though Redcar may revert to their traditional Thursday and be joined by Ipswich and Sheffield. Not sure if Berwick would fancy the big league and may opt for the lower tier. Belle Vue, Kings Lynn and Leicester have all had Saturdays in their past - in some cases distant past - so it'll be interesting to see what they opt for. If Mondays, then the big league could be run Monday to Friday which may allow some previously Premiership only guys - Kurtz, Lidsay etc- to ride in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 3:59 PM, Beirao said: Would think CL teams would keep their regular race nights though Redcar may revert to their traditional Thursday and be joined by Ipswich and Sheffield. Not sure if Berwick would fancy the big league and may opt for the lower tier. Belle Vue, Kings Lynn and Leicester have all had Saturdays in their past - in some cases distant past - so it'll be interesting to see what they opt for. If Mondays, then the big league could be run Monday to Friday which may allow some previously Premiership only guys - Kurtz, Lidsay etc- to ride in the UK. Expand What’s big league about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:08 PM, Fromafar said: What’s big league about it? Expand May be combined would be a better description, though if eleven teams are in it, it will be almost twice as big as next years Premiership if two senior leagues. Will the big/combined league be 2H and 2A? Can clubs sustain that ? Sounds a lot at 40 meetings but just the same as 16 Championship and 24 Premiership league meetings this year. If 1H and 1A that represents a 50% reduction in meetings for doubling up riders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:14 PM, Beirao said: May be combined would be a better description, though if eleven teams are in it, it will be almost twice as big as next years Premiership if two senior leagues. Will the big/combined league be 2H and 2A? Can clubs sustain that ? Sounds a lot at 40 meetings but just the same as 16 Championship and 24 Premiership league meetings this year. If 1H and 1A that represents a 50% reduction in meetings for doubling up riders. Expand Would like to think Berwick would still be in that League.wouldn’t be much different to Championship just now,if Promoters have any sense.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:19 PM, Fromafar said: Would like to think Berwick would still be in that League.wouldn’t be much different to Championship just now,if Promoters have any sense.IMO Expand Thats the first problem, what the PL owners will want will differ from the CL owners. Sense will go out the window as self interest will dominate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:28 PM, MD said: Thats the first problem, what the PL owners will want will differ from the CL owners. Sense will go out the window as self interest will dominate. Expand Tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 On 8/12/2023 at 4:28 PM, MD said: Thats the first problem, what the PL owners will want will differ from the CL owners. Sense will go out the window as self interest will dominate. Expand Time PL owners realise its the CL teams that will make or break them. Time 5he CL got a fair deal TV wise too 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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