Fromafar Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, screm said: What you expecting two over takes. Always the optimist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Just now, Hamster00 said: Is this the club line Mr Barrie or do you genuinely think it’s great value? Or did you just fancy getting the fishing rod out? Its probably just taking another few off going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hamster00 said: Is this the club line Mr Barrie or do you genuinely think it’s great value? Or did you just fancy getting the fishing rod out? Club Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I'm not Berwick fan obviously so feel free to shoot me down, but biggest issue I see is you're basically imprisoned for an NDL match to get your money's worth where I know many people aren't interested in it. I myself have little interest in watching it, it's my preference. So in fact anyone of the same persuasion and doesn't want to hang about for 3 hours plus is paying £2 per race. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackstaightBandit Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It's a quid a race... Free car-parking. How does that compare with other tracks, where you pay up to £1.50 per heat on a normal night after parking the car? Just saying...... Exactly that, £1 a race to watch two play off hopefuls battle it out then follow that with the great entertainment that is the National League. Great value 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 A pound a race… there’s been 45 races at Shielfield Park this season and I wouldn’t have paid a pound for any of them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, BackstaightBandit said: Exactly that, £1 a race to watch two play off hopefuls battle it out then follow that with the great entertainment that is the National League. Great value Thanks for the input George Dodds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, BackstaightBandit said: Exactly that, £1 a race to watch two play off hopefuls battle it out then follow that with the great entertainment that is the National League. Great value Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 I would say £25 max especially what was a non event v Redcar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 2 hours ago, BackstaightBandit said: Exactly that, £1 a race to watch two play off hopefuls battle it out then follow that with the great entertainment that is the National League. Great value Are you Dick in disguise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 5 hours ago, screm said: Maybe the promotion are keeping us guessing for the on night price. It'll be announced at 6 25 pm, when the queue is round the car park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Where is Col when you need to get behind the lads.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 Wish I had stayed in the Barrels ale house on Saturday before going on to Musselburgh races the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 3 hours ago, BackstaightBandit said: Exactly that, £1 a race to watch two play off hopefuls battle it out then follow that with the great entertainment that is the National League. Great value Tbh at the start of the season every club can call themselves a play-off hopeful, don't know if that means anything really! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 46 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Tbh at the start of the season every club can call themselves a play-off hopeful, don't know if that means anything really! Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 2, 2023 Report Share Posted May 2, 2023 1 hour ago, soupy said: Where is Col when you need to get behind the lads.. AWOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jaizer said: I'm not Berwick fan obviously so feel free to shoot me down, but biggest issue I see is you're basically imprisoned for an NDL match to get your money's worth where I know many people aren't interested in it. I myself have little interest in watching it, it's my preference. So in fact anyone of the same persuasion and doesn't want to hang about for 3 hours plus is paying £2 per race. Correct And the fact remains... That it is still Thirty Quid... For a couple to go its Sixty Quid.. For around just 35 mins of actual "entertainment" (which by subjective opinion can be very varied in quality)... In a cost of living crisis... That's what those who run, or who are involved in the sport, dont get, (many of whom will help out, and in exchange, get in for "free")... That really isnt value for money, when, as has already been said, half the nights "entertainment" could have zero interest for a fair proportion of your fanbase.. Thirty Pounds for the 15 heats you are interested in is the offer in the eyes of some, and whether the club wants you to see it as that or not is irrelevant, as VFM is in the eye of the purchaser not the seller.. And, not seen any line ups obviously, but if it follows the majority of meetings in the UK, those 15 heats you are interested in could have a "few" guests on show, (with more over the two meetings) to reduce the relevance of what is on offer even further, meaning you are stretching the loyalty of even your most die hard followers with such a price point.. I have shook my head many times when having discussions with Promoters, and their support crew, around why crowds are so low, as they really do not "get it"... They invariably "love the sport" and become emotionally attached to riders, wanting them to have the most opportunities to earn money for the risks they take, and the machinery investment, so cannot see why their tracks are not "packed out" every week with fans showing the same enthusiasm for the sport that those within the sport do.. Unfortunately that can also prevent them from seeing the "bigger picture" that not everyone in their fanbase feels the same and, given the lack of credibility in the operating model, and/or maybe a dodgy weather forecast, you can see why even your most loyal followers sometimes can "take it or leave it" on any given night.. Emotional blackmail of "use it or lose it" also doesnt wash, as it is not the customers who must blindly follow the business, it is the business who must provide what the punters want, (not what they "think" the punters want).. Hopefully those of us looking at Sixty Quid for a couple to attend for 35 mins of "entertainment", as being "a bit optimistic and out of touch", will be completely wrong, and the place is full to the rafters... Edited May 3, 2023 by mikebv 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mikebv said: Correct And the fact remains... That it is still Thirty Quid... For a couple to go its Sixty Quid.. For around just 35 mins of actual "entertainment" (which by subjective opinion can be very varied in quality)... In a cost of living crisis... That's what those who run, or who are involved in the sport, dont get, (many of whom will help out, and in exchange, get in for "free")... That really isnt value for money, when, as has already been said, half the nights "entertainment" could have zero interest for a fair proportion of your fanbase.. Thirty Pounds for the 15 heats you are interested in is the offer in the eyes of some, and whether the club wants you to see it as that or not is irrelevant, as VFM is in the eye of the purchaser not the seller.. And, not seen any line ups obviously, but if it follows the majority of meetings in the UK, those 15 heats you are interested in could have a "few" guests on show, (with more over the two meetings) to reduce the relevance of what is on offer even further, meaning you are stretching the loyalty of even your most die hard followers with such a price point.. I have shook my head many times when having discussions with Promoters, and their support crew, around why crowds are so low, as they really do not "get it"... They invariably "love the sport" and become emotionally attached to riders, wanting them to have the most opportunities to earn money for the risks they take, and the machinery investment, so cannot see why their tracks are not "packed out" every week with fans showing the same enthusiasm for the sport that those within the sport do.. Unfortunately that can also prevent them from seeing the "bigger picture" that not everyone in their fanbase feels the same and, given the lack of credibility in the operating model, and/or maybe a dodgy weather forecast, you can see why even your most loyal followers sometimes can "take it or leave it" on any given night.. Emotional blackmail of "use it or lose it" also doesnt wash, as it is not the customers who must blindly follow the business, it is the business who must provide what the punters want, (not what they "think" the punters want).. Hopefully those of us looking at Sixty Quid for a couple to attend for 35 mins of "entertainment", as being "a bit optimistic and out of touch", will be completely wrong, and the place is full to the rafters... Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, StevePark said: Double Header on Sat. Tickets now on sale at £30. I don't understand why they're charging the full price for a Champ & NL match. There must be savings they can pass onto the fans. Stadium rental, travel expenses for riders in both matches etc, does the referee get double his fee? I know the fans "saving" would be not having to pay petrol twice, but not evey fan would choose to go to both meetings! Edited May 3, 2023 by szkocjasid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted May 3, 2023 Report Share Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, mikebv said: Thirty Pounds for the 15 heats you are interested in is the offer in the eyes of some, and whether the club wants you to see it as that or not is irrelevant, as VFM is in the eye of the purchaser not the seller.. That is the most important bit, it's the fans who will declare if it seems VFM, based on how many turn up, not the promotion. Edited May 3, 2023 by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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