szkocjasid Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, foreverblue said: If Jorgensen is 9.53 I don't think you can fit Schlein on a 8.18 in unless you get another 2 pointer which is not going to work in my opinion. 2 x 2.00 riders could work if you have a strong top end. However I wouldn't call Jorgensen, Schlein & Flint a particularly string top end (I'd be expecting 2 of them to drop their averages). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Pinny said: Another thread where the Poole fans can't help turning it into their own thread. Scheiln to Berwick does seem a weird signing if true though. Not really his kind of track is it? Seems only to be a rumour at this stage and personally I hope it stays as that, just a rumour. Very poor signing if it turns out to be true, I think we have all seen Schlein`s attitude towards a track that is not to his liking so if he does want to make a track return I hope its with another team and the very best of luck to him and them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Fromafar said: If it’s dry and slick he’s fast round Berwick if he gates. Do we really want to set up a track just for one rider, don`t Berwick realise that when we have slick conditions and turn a meeting a gating competition Berwick normally are on the wrong end of a hammering. I for one don't want to turn up every Saturday night to watch very little if any proper racing just because our No1 would spit his dummy if he doesn't get his own way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: 2 x 2.00 riders could work if you have a strong top end. However I wouldn't call Jorgensen, Schlein & Flint a particularly string top end (I'd be expecting 2 of them to drop their averages). I don't see 2x2.00 pointers working at all, you can manage one especially if most teams have one 2.00 pointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 18 hours ago, szkocjasid said: One option for Berwick would he to sign 2 x 2.00 reserves (Stoneman & Pijper) and build to the points limit. Once Jorgensen has had one match he'll revert to a rolling ave from 2021, which could give Berwick 2 points to play with to strengthen up at reserve. However after 2 matches Jonas Knudsen will get a 6+ ave & they'll only have one point to play with? Gotta be clever with fixtures here, race the 1st league match on 22nd March & Jorgensen will get a new ave on 1st April. Then race a couple of KOC fixtures so Knudsen doesn't get a new ave straight away! Is this how it works? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col69 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 all signed up by xmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 I have just read this topic from page 2 mainly through TJ signing for you. Interested if past/recent averages are used from different leagues as the final averages (past) were based on 20 meetings. Lambert signing for Belle Vue was his last Premiership average although signed towards end of the year, this last years averages were based on last 10, 12 or 14 league meetings. All getting too complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, IronScorpion said: I have just read this topic from page 2 mainly through TJ signing for you. Interested if past/recent averages are used from different leagues as the final averages (past) were based on 20 meetings. Lambert signing for Belle Vue was his last Premiership average although signed towards end of the year, this last years averages were based on last 10, 12 or 14 league meetings. All getting too complicated. Averages are far to complicated by changes rules every 5 min. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hard on the heels of his Berwick signing Jonas Knudson signs for Pila in Polish Division 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Averages are far to complicated by changes rules every 5 min. Too true as in this year. True averages based in 20 meetings was far better but I think all meetings should be taken in to consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, screm said: Hard on the heels of his Berwick signing Jonas Knudson signs for Pila in Polish Division 2. Probably not doing our Premiership then. Sat Berwick, Sat/Sun Liga2, Tues Ekstraliga U24, Wed Denmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 I’m sure Thomas Jorgensen average for the championship next season will be based on his Premiership average from 2022 and not his Championship from 2021. All will be revealed as the promoters have met today I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: I’m sure Thomas Jorgensen average for the championship next season will be based on his Premiership average from 2022 and not his Championship from 2021. All will be revealed as the promoters have met today I believe Tomorrow? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Tomorrow? Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, eric i said: Is this how it works? "Once Jorgensen has had one match he'll revert to a rolling ave from 2021" A riders most recent average is used, for Jorgensen that would be his 2022 Prem ave. But once he rides for Berwick they will then use his rolling ave. I'm theory he could get a new ave after one match (as would his teammates), but only if they ride before a monthly cut-off (23rd). If Berwick's first league match was on 24th March, riders wouldn't get a new rolling ave until 1st May! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 I can remember the days when riders averages were a reasonably easy thing to work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Brilliant start to team building. I hope Nathan and Jonas (or potentially brother Jesper) are the reserves... I imagine Jorgensens average will be whatever his PL average converted by 1.5, which I think would put him somewhere in the 9s would it not?? Definitely no Bomber if that's the case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Brilliant start to team building. I hope Nathan and Jonas (or potentially brother Jesper) are the reserves... I imagine Jorgensens average will be whatever his PL average converted by 1.5, which I think would put him somewhere in the 9s would it not?? Definitely no Bomber if that's the case... It’s already be announced Bomber is not returning!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s already be announced Bomber is not returning!! Cheers, I hadn't seen that then again I've not really been paying much attention. Who do you reckon the last 2 may be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, screm said: I can remember the days when riders averages were a reasonably easy thing to work out. Yeah, but! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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