Ryan555 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: If that is to be the team ,who will partner Joe at reserve at the start of the season??? Zaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Problem with that team is Lambert!! He will drop to reserve and away from home thats a very weak pairing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 1 hour ago, phillipsr said: Problem with that team is Lambert!! He will drop to reserve and away from home thats a very weak pairing What is your problem with Lambert ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: What is your problem with Lambert ?? Don't think any team who has ambitions of winning the league has a rider who will not improve in it.. hot and cold at home and freezing away and has been for years… for what its worth he seems a good captain but theres better riders likely to improve on similar averages 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Who on or around his average has more improvement ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Who on or around his average has more improvement ? Dillion Ruml ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Tosh1218 said: Who on or around his average has more improvement ? Connor bailey, Stefan nielsen? Edited November 16, 2022 by Jaizer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds85 Posted November 16, 2022 Report Share Posted November 16, 2022 Jack Thomas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie4388 Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 Mr Kennedy confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Who on or around his average has more improvement ? All those listed…. Plus a few more than at least have the potential to… D Thompson, Anders Rowe have the potential still to improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False dawn Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Fozzie4388 said: Mr Kennedy confirmed Forgive me for saying, but how does this statement: "Promoter Rob Godfrey said: It was a nasty crash and Zaine was fortunate to escape it without any major injuries." square with: Zaine suffered an horrific crash at the Eddie Wright Raceway in late July which ruled him out for the remainder of the season with a fractured pelvis. Especially as both quotes are contained within the same article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric i Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) On 11/16/2022 at 7:16 PM, TTT said: Douglas, Allen, Toft, S. Lambert, Mountain & Kennedy TBA imo. (Drip feeding announcements) I concur Douglas 9.36 M.P.Toft 6.76 J.Allen 6.3 S.Lambet 5.20 C.Mountain 4.72 Z. Kennedy 4.27 J.Thompson 3 total 39.61 Decent team IMO Mountain, Kennedy and Allen could put something on their average. I can't see Douglas, M.PT, Lambet average dropping, not sure about Joe Thompson. Edited November 17, 2022 by eric i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 17, 2022 Report Share Posted November 17, 2022 On 11/16/2022 at 8:31 PM, phillipsr said: Problem with that team is Lambert!! He will drop to reserve and away from home thats a very weak pairing Lambert's away ave (4.00) was higher than Kennedy's (3.76) despite Zaine racing in the easier number 7 spot for most of his matches. So I'd argue Lambert dropping to reserve would strengthen Scunny away! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCookie Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Lambert's away ave (4.00) was higher than Kennedy's (3.76) despite Zaine racing in the easier number 7 spot for most of his matches. So I'd argue Lambert dropping to reserve would strengthen Scunny away! Does it strengthen them away from home? Yes. Is it a really a good thing that Lambert just outdoes a rider who's ridden here about 2 season's? No, which I think was the OPs point. Lambert is a great team man / journeyman, and speedway probably does need a few more like him, but you won't win leagues having riders with no improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berry9 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/16/2022 at 8:31 PM, phillipsr said: Problem with that team is Lambert!! He will drop to reserve and away from home thats a very weak pairing The problem for Scunthorpe is the same as the problem for Redcar. "The track is too fair" and that makes it too easy for away teams to drive away with points in the bag with little chance of a reciprocal favour in corresponding away fixture. I know we get to see lots of exciting racing over 4 laps instead of a boring dash to the first corner from the tapes but then doesn’t amount to much when they dish out the trophies. I also think it hinders the ability to secure the best riders because they want a home track where they can take 12 points from a meeting and ot when where visiting heat leaders can make a serious dent in their income 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phillwhitewasmad Posted November 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Berry9 said: The problem for Scunthorpe is the same as the problem for Redcar. "The track is too fair" and that makes it too easy for away teams to drive away with points in the bag with little chance of a reciprocal favour in corresponding away fixture. I know we get to see lots of exciting racing over 4 laps instead of a boring dash to the first corner from the tapes but then doesn’t amount to much when they dish out the trophies. I also think it hinders the ability to secure the best riders because they want a home track where they can take 12 points from a meeting and ot when where visiting heat leaders can make a serious dent in their income Personally would rather see the great racing that scunthorpe and Redcar produces than rubbish racing and massive home wins. Nobody really cares who wins the league so would rather be entertained at the meetings I attend 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) On 11/16/2022 at 10:21 PM, phillipsr said: Don't think any team who has ambitions of winning the league has a rider who will not improve in it.. hot and cold at home and freezing away and has been for years… for what its worth he seems a good captain but theres better riders likely to improve on similar averages 3 hours ago, JCookie said: Does it strengthen them away from home? Yes. Is it a really a good thing that Lambert just outdoes a rider who's ridden here about 2 season's? No, which I think was the OPs point. Lambert is a great team man / journeyman, and speedway probably does need a few more like him, but you won't win leagues having riders with no improvement. You've both mentioned teams won't win leagues using riders who won't show any improvement. But look at Poole all 3 of their heat leaders dropped their average in 2022, plus Ablitt never moved above the minimum 2.00. So clearly having ONE rider not up his ave isn't going to hurt a team (especially as you can finish 6th & be Champions. Edited November 18, 2022 by szkocjasid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Berry9 said: The problem for Scunthorpe is the same as the problem for Redcar. "The track is too fair" and that makes it too easy for away teams to drive away with points in the bag with little chance of a reciprocal favour in corresponding away fixture. I know we get to see lots of exciting racing over 4 laps instead of a boring dash to the first corner from the tapes but then doesn’t amount to much when they dish out the trophies. I also think it hinders the ability to secure the best riders because they want a home track where they can take 12 points from a meeting and ot when where visiting heat leaders can make a serious dent in their income I don’t agree with your last comment about not attracting the best riders but your first point is valid and I feel Glasgow falls into that category……..but in saying that, I’d rather watch exciting, close racing every week (oops, sorry….fortnight….lol) than watch a procession after the first bend. I’ll forego the medals, thank you……. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Berry9 said: The problem for Scunthorpe is the same as the problem for Redcar. "The track is too fair" and that makes it too easy for away teams to drive away with points in the bag with little chance of a reciprocal favour in corresponding away fixture. I know we get to see lots of exciting racing over 4 laps instead of a boring dash to the first corner from the tapes but then doesn’t amount to much when they dish out the trophies. I also think it hinders the ability to secure the best riders because they want a home track where they can take 12 points from a meeting and ot when where visiting heat leaders can make a serious dent in their income you're quite right, however I'm sure the riders appreciate the quality of the track despite the fairness. Fewer 'trick' tracks than there used to be. If you cd master Cleveland Park you were guaranteed a hatful and we hardly ever lost at home before the merger into a big league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 18, 2022 Report Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Personally would rather see the great racing that scunthorpe and Redcar produces than rubbish racing and massive home wins. Nobody really cares who wins the league so would rather be entertained at the meetings I attend I would think that the "twitter vote" of over 70% bringing back the "bonus point" were voters from technical tracks that see great racing, cough cough, every week/fortnight. POINTS MEAN PRIZES!!!!!! To add to this, posters on here go on about Promoters self interest, well, they should now look in a mirror & hang your heads in shame. Read more on the Championship 2023 thread to see a lot(majority) are not happy. Edited November 18, 2022 by IronScorpion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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