POOLE 2023

[szkocjasid]

7 hours ago, phillipsr said:

Awful signing on a 4 

Don't think so, Complin's away ave was far better than his home ave for Newcastle. Put him on a home track he likes & his average could rise.

[foreverblue]

18 minutes ago, szkocjasid said:

Don't think so, Complin's away ave was far better than his home ave for Newcastle. Put him on a home track he likes & his average could rise.

I would think he has had tough times and has a good chance to improve, he is also a very entertaining rider .

[Cast1rn]

1 hour ago, szkocjasid said:

 

Not "unfair on them" at all

1) With a very strong top 5, scoring lots of points the reserves don't need to score much to win

2) if they don't think it's fair, don't sign for a club with 2 x 2.00 reserves

I’m very much of the opposite thinking.

your 6 and 7 have to do 30% (28.57)of the rides for the team. If your team is carrying 2 x 2 pointers and they make their average that leaves 42 points required to get a win before heat 15. That works out at 2.1 points per rider per race. 4-2’s won’t cut it.

last year Poole could carry one two pointer as Nathan only did 3 rides a night (10%) leaving the rest of the riders requiring to score 1.76 points per ride(4-2’s now cut it) to secure a win by the end of heat 14.

if you think that your 1-5 can all average 8.4 a meeting then that’s the way to go.
 

I’d go with a 4 pointer at 6 and take the #7’s 4th ride unless he’s scored 2 already in the meeting. (Pretty much what Poole did with Nathan all season)

Edited December 7, 2022 by Cast1rn

[SteveLyric2]

Nathan Ablitt has been signed up for Wroclaw in the Polish U.24 league in 2023. Good lad.

Edited December 8, 2022 by Skidder1

[ray c]

1 hour ago, Skidder1 said:

Nathan Ablitt has been signed up for Wroclaw in the Polish U.24 league in 2023. Good lad.

just proved what they said one for the future but maybe not at poole  

[foreverblue]

2 minutes ago, ray c said:

just proved what they said one for the future but maybe not at poole  

I just think it's wrong on several levels to not use him next season.

[LisaColette]

1 minute ago, foreverblue said:

I just think it's wrong on several levels to not use him next season.

Well until the team is announced or Nathan is announced for someone else, we don't know 100% that he isn't at Poole next season. 

[foreverblue]

Just now, lisa-colette said:

Well until the team is announced or Nathan is announced for someone else, we don't know 100% that he isn't at Poole next season. 

Yes that is true, it is only rumour, maybe they are on team d, e by now and he is included. With some teams already announced with at least one 2 pointer, some with two and with a seasons experience at CL level I think Nathan would be a big bonus as in mh opinion he is better than most if not all the 2 point riders already announced. 

[Jaizer]

10 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

I just think it's wrong on several levels to not use him next season.

It does seem odd, Nathan now has year and a half champ experience, looking at make up of most teams have 1 if not 2  inexperienced reserves this season. You'd think he'd be one of better reserves in the league 

[foreverblue]

3 minutes ago, Jaizer said:

It does seem odd, Nathan now has year and a half champ experience, looking at make up of most teams have 1 if not 2  inexperienced reserves this season. You'd think he'd be one of better reserves in the league 

Yes I agree, you probably have the best 2 pointer but I would say Nathan is better than the other 2 pointers already announced. 

[Bagpuss]

2 hours ago, foreverblue said:

Yes I agree, you probably have the best 2 pointer but I would say Nathan is better than the other 2 pointers already announced. 

Not sure I'd agree with that, I'd personally put him behind Coles, Stoneman, Pijper, Atkins and Mulford. Jury out on Killeen. 

What I would say is that IF Roynon and Newman are Poole's reserves as suggested that is quite shrewd, they are experienced riders who should have the beating of many reserves in the league. Once it was decided to release King and go more solid Ablitt was highly unlikely to return, hopefully he will get a ride elsewhere. 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Bagpuss

[arnieg]

8 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Not sure I'd agree with that, I'd personally put him behind Coles, Stoneman, Pijper, Atkins and Mulford. Jury out on Killeen. 

What I would say is that IF Roynon and Newman are Poole's reserves as suggested that is quite shrewd, they are experienced riders who should have the beating of many reserves in the league. Once it was decided to release King and go more solid Ablitt was highly unlikely to return, hopefully he will get a rude elsewhere. 

I largely agree with your assessment, but given his age, relative inexperience and improvement to date I would expect Ablitt to overtake most of these in 2023. So I'd go with a strong no 6 and Ablitt.

[SteveLyric2]

1 hour ago, Bagpuss said:

Not sure I'd agree with that, I'd personally put him behind Coles, Stoneman, Pijper, Atkins and Mulford. Jury out on Killeen. 

What I would say is that IF Roynon and Newman are Poole's reserves as suggested that is quite shrewd, they are experienced riders who should have the beating of many reserves in the league. Once it was decided to release King and go more solid Ablitt was highly unlikely to return, hopefully he will get a rude elsewhere. 

...a rude what??? 

[Bagpuss]

1 minute ago, Skidder1 said:

...a rude what??? 

Whatever he fancies

[foreverblue]

2 hours ago, Bagpuss said:

Not sure I'd agree with that, I'd personally put him behind Coles, Stoneman, Pijper, Atkins and Mulford. Jury out on Killeen. 

What I would say is that IF Roynon and Newman are Poole's reserves as suggested that is quite shrewd, they are experienced riders who should have the beating of many reserves in the league. Once it was decided to release King and go more solid Ablitt was highly unlikely to return, hopefully he will get a ride elsewhere. 

Personally I would put him above Coles, Stoneman, Killeen and Atkins. 

[Bagpuss]

21 minutes ago, foreverblue said:

Personally I would put him above Coles, Stoneman, Killeen and Atkins. 

Killeen still an unknown quantity but the others have better NL averages.

[LisaColette]

24 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Killeen still an unknown quantity but the others have better NL averages.

Yes but this is the Champ and he rode for BV in NL, so not really home advantage. Have seen Nathan beat Starke, James Sarjaent at Edinburgh twice, Ben Morley at Plymouth and Bailey at Poole twice. Sure there are others but those are the ones that I remember the most.

[PTW]

On 12/6/2022 at 11:48 PM, TTT said:

Probably this.

 

Stevie

Z. Cook

B. Cook

Kemp

Lawson

Thomas

Ablitt

No thanks to Kemp after last year 

[LisaColette]

25 minutes ago, PTW said:

No thanks to Kemp after last year 

Tbf most of the year he was okay (on track, no idea what goes on in the pits). Only last 6 weeks of the season when it unravelled a bit. 

[Cast1rn]

1 hour ago, lisa-colette said:

Yes but this is the Champ and he rode for BV in NL, so not really home advantage. Have seen Nathan beat Starke, James Sarjaent at Edinburgh twice, Ben Morley at Plymouth and Bailey at Poole twice. Sure there are others but those are the ones that I remember the most.

Also in his defence as a number 7 he should be riding against the oppositions 7 in every heat he’s in, but he was never in heat 8.