ASpeedwayfan Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 8:53 PM, lisa-colette said: As much as I would love Chris Holder back, he will be on a 11 point average and we will be more top heavy than last year. Expand Agree. If we can fit Holder, Cooks, lawson/king and still have a competitive rest of the team I'm all for it. But Holder on an 11+ average makes that's very difficult. But as a poole fan I would go every week to watch Holder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 with hqlder it will be a long tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers99 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Harris 8.76 Z. Cook 4.92 Hume 5.68 Cook 6.09 Lawson 8.06 Abitt 2.00 C. Bailey 4.47 39.98. Can't see Ford bringing Holder back as will ruin team balance. Harris needs a week day track, Hume and Bailey not at Glasgow. Top end strength, solid second strings and you'll always have a potent reserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragdoll64 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:47 PM, Essex said: Who would we drop for Chris Holder Poole icon he is but Matt always builds top teams and if he thinks that's the way to go then who could argue but I don't think it's likely but what do I know as for an earlier post about Matt flashing the cash I don't think he does Poole is a speedway town always has been and I suppose like say if Manchester United come calling footballers find it hard to say no and I should think its the same in our sport if Poole/Matt calls you to race at Wimborne Road ( paid on time and good chance to win trophies ) you would say yes.We are lucky as Poole is a holiday resort so always get good crowds so Matt may have a bit extra to invest in riders but from what I have seen on here the Glasgow promotion have all the money and try as they may have not found the best 7 to win the league yet so money doesn't guarantee success what you need is a good knowledge in speedway and a few contacts in Australia and a big house for your riders to live in while the season is on. Expand Lololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 7:10 AM, ray c said: with hqlder it will be a long tail Expand Can’t see it happening unless he is re-assessed. Why would you want an 11point rider when you have a 8 point rider who can win most races,to justify his inclusion he would have to win all his races and he would not do that. He has always struggled at tight technical tracks too. If we were to go up to the Premiership then that would be. different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 Gawd, lets hope this week's AGM brings some sort of clarity to this 'silly season' asap!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 With it being a 32 meeting season, could bring him in do a bit of average manipulation for 5/6 meetings, scrape some home wins get a few doings away, get him down to 8.00, 8.5 there you have 3 points to play with come May. Only need to make play offs not win the league. Be good to see Noddy back in British speedway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) With holder signed up with Leszno in the Ekstraliga I think him riding championship is a bit of a fantasy. Edited November 14, 2022 by Mr Blobby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 10:37 AM, foreverblue said: Can’t see it happening unless he is re-assessed. Why would you want an 11point rider when you have a 8 point rider who can win most races,to justify his inclusion he would have to win all his races and he would not do that. He has always struggled at tight technical tracks too. If we were to go up to the Premiership then that would be. different. Expand I believe he finished the Holdergate season on 7.16 in the Prem. I know you x it by 1.5 for the Champ, but how low do you want his average to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:47 PM, Essex said: Who would we drop for Chris Holder Poole icon he is but Matt always builds top teams and if he thinks that's the way to go then who could argue but I don't think it's likely but what do I know as for an earlier post about Matt flashing the cash I don't think he does Poole is a speedway town always has been and I suppose like say if Manchester United come calling footballers find it hard to say no and I should think its the same in our sport if Poole/Matt calls you to race at Wimborne Road ( paid on time and good chance to win trophies ) you would say yes.We are lucky as Poole is a holiday resort so always get good crowds so Matt may have a bit extra to invest in riders but from what I have seen on here the Glasgow promotion have all the money and try as they may have not found the best 7 to win the league yet so money doesn't guarantee success what you need is a good knowledge in speedway and a few contacts in Australia and a big house for your riders to live in while the season is on. Expand Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 12:10 PM, Skidder1 said: Gawd, lets hope this week's AGM brings some sort of clarity to this 'silly season' asap!!! Expand Why? Best part of the off season. Bit like watching the masked singer! Lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 1:15 PM, lisa-colette said: Why? Best part of the off season. Bit like watching the masked singer! Lol. Expand Absolutely. Lots of people get a lot of enjoyment out of guessing line ups and speculating. Perhaps a bah humbug thread should be started for those who don't enjoy it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 1:18 PM, Bagpuss said: Absolutely. Lots of people get a lot of enjoyment out of guessing line ups and speculating. Perhaps a bah humbug thread should be started for those who don't enjoy it Expand Yes! But then poor Skidder prob knows what the team is so can't enjoy the shock and surprise of it being announced like everyone else can Sucks to be in the know sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 7:55 PM, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Hope you’re all excited for your new number one? Ford flashing the cash as usual Expand Still waiting for names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 12:38 PM, Bald Bloke said: I believe he finished the Holdergate season on 7.16 in the Prem. I know you x it by 1.5 for the Champ, but how low do you want his average to go Expand Needs to be lower, needs to be a 9.00 to have a competitive team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corfe pirate Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) On 11/14/2022 at 12:20 PM, Jaizer said: With it being a 32 meeting season, could bring him in do a bit of average manipulation for 5/6 meetings, scrape some home wins get a few doings away, get him down to 8.00, 8.5 there you have 3 points to play with come May. Only need to make play offs not win the league. Be good to see Noddy back in British speedway Expand Glad this post has come from someone a fair few miles from Poole. Nobody from this neighborhood would ever have thought of let alone done this. . Edited November 14, 2022 by corfe pirate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASpeedwayfan Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:25 PM, foreverblue said: Needs to be lower, needs to be a 9.00 to have a competitive team. Expand Depends on if we have anything up our sleeves else where in our team, Holder Cook Cook Lawson Ablitt is about 32 points? (I think) So maybe 2 new young Aussies could make for a competitive team, and then as mentioned above. Can play with the averages after the first set of green sheets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:51 PM, ASpeedwayfan said: Depends on if we have anything up our sleeves else where in our team, Holder Cook Cook Lawson Ablitt is about 32 points? (I think) So maybe 2 new young Aussies could make for a competitive team, and then as mentioned above. Can play with the averages after the first set of green sheets Expand Now that Holder has just signed for a new Swe Team as per Speedway News POL, I can't see it happening. Could only see it if he had maybe doubled up with Prem to make it work financially. Let's hope that after the BSPA meeting (due Tuesday according to reports on here) that we at least know the points limit. I reckon both Prem and Champ limits already agreed in principal as clubs are already announcing riders in both leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) On 11/14/2022 at 3:12 PM, STEVEHOLS54 said: Now that Holder has just signed for a new Swe Team as per Speedway News POL, I can't see it happening. Could only see it if he had maybe doubled up with Prem to make it work financially. Let's hope that after the BSPA meeting (due Tuesday according to reports on here) that we at least know the points limit. I reckon both Prem and Champ limits already agreed in principal as clubs are already announcing riders in both leagues. Expand Points limits were discussed and provisionally agreed in September subject to final declaration of number of teams. As for Chris Holder I reckon Poole fans will just have to be content with seeing him (and Jack/Brady) in the pits most weeks but not on track - unless there is a one-off individual meeting or inter-league challenge or similar. Edited November 14, 2022 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 14, 2022 Report Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:51 PM, ASpeedwayfan said: Depends on if we have anything up our sleeves else where in our team, Holder Cook Cook Lawson Ablitt is about 32 points? (I think) So maybe 2 new young Aussies could make for a competitive team, and then as mentioned above. Can play with the averages after the first set of green sheets Expand Personally I don't see any chance of Chris Holder returning unless we returned to the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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