Wee Eck Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: You didn't look very hard! 2022 Scunny had r/r for him but in 2021 he got 6+1 for Redcar. He may have also been at Poole before then if he had a Prem place 2019 or earlier? I couldn’t be bothered trying to work out who he rode for in 2021 but reckoned he hadn’t been “no slouch” at Poole in 2022. Jake looked a real prospect when he rode for Somerset but hasn’t really kicked on. Maybe 2023 will be the year he puts his slouchiness behind him and shows his true talent? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 I have nothing against Jake Allen but he is a journeyman third heat leader in the Championship. Not in the same class as Richard Lawson. Yes, on his home track he could pop out and beat Lawson but overall Lawson is a much more accomplished rider. I recall Allen having a couple of decent meetings at Poole when he was at reserve. But last season he was nowhere and didn’t get close to double figures if my brain remembers correctly. Can’t really compare the two riders. When Allen rode for Somerset he looked like a talent about to break through but sadly it never materialised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Wee Eck said: I couldn’t be bothered trying to work out who he rode for in 2021 but reckoned he hadn’t been “no slouch” at Poole in 2022. Jake looked a real prospect when he rode for Somerset but hasn’t really kicked on. Maybe 2023 will be the year he puts his slouchiness behind him and shows his true talent? Yeah, I couldn't remember who he rode for in 2021 either! But just went on confirmed 2021 signings thread . A lot of the away riders don't like the grippy starts at Poole, so seems to give the home riders a head start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted January 30, 2023 Report Share Posted January 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I have nothing against Jake Allen but he is a journeyman third heat leader in the Championship. Not in the same class as Richard Lawson. Yes, on his home track he could pop out and beat Lawson but overall Lawson is a much more accomplished rider. I recall Allen having a couple of decent meetings at Poole when he was at reserve. But last season he was nowhere and didn’t get close to double figures if my brain remembers correctly. Can’t really compare the two riders. When Allen rode for Somerset he looked like a talent about to break through but sadly it never materialised. Mission impossible when he wasn't there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderman1 Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: I have nothing against Jake Allen but he is a journeyman third heat leader in the Championship. Not in the same class as Richard Lawson. Yes, on his home track he could pop out and beat Lawson but overall Lawson is a much more accomplished rider. I recall Allen having a couple of decent meetings at Poole when he was at reserve. But last season he was nowhere and didn’t get close to double figures if my brain remembers correctly. Can’t really compare the two riders. When Allen rode for Somerset he looked like a talent about to break through but sadly it never materialised. He would want to be a more accomplished rider at his age and experience , it will be a compeditive year in 23, didn’t think there was much in it but time will tell,looking foreward to poole/scunny matches, as always u guys hate to loose, up the scorpions in 23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 By his own admission in recent interviews Lawson has said 9 times out of 10 if he's on a 5-1 he will let his partner win the 3 whilst he settles for 2 plus bonus point!! Hence a slightly lower CMA for team building opportunities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 1:49 PM, lisa-colette said: You didn't look very hard! 2022 Scunny had r/r for him but in 2021 he got 6+1 for Redcar. He may have also been at Poole before then if he had a Prem place 2019 or earlier? Not too impressive then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 7 hours ago, Spiderman1 said: He would want to be a more accomplished rider at his age and experience , it will be a compeditive year in 23, didn’t think there was much in it but time will tell,looking foreward to poole/scunny matches, as always u guys hate to loose, up the scorpions in 23 I would back Lawson to beat Allen on any track, personally I think it's crazy to try to compare them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, foreverblue said: I would back Lawson to beat Allen on any track, personally I think it's crazy to try to compare them. True ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 My best guess is that spiderman is a parody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 Apart from masters Lawson is the best rider in the league imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauldoveyspeedway Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, lewy said: Apart from masters Lawson is the best rider in the league imo. Masters...Lawson and Douglas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: Not too impressive then! Sometimes performance is better than going by a points tally 2 hours ago, Bagpuss said: My best guess is that spiderman is a parody. It did cross my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted January 31, 2023 Report Share Posted January 31, 2023 5 hours ago, lewy said: Apart from masters Lawson is the best rider in the league imo. Lawson certainly is nigh unbeatable in the Championship, so why doesn't his average reflect this? Could it be a team building average! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghosty said: Lawson certainly is nigh unbeatable in the Championship, so why doesn't his average reflect this? Could it be a team building average! And a handy guest average I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiveusaB Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 15 hours ago, lewy said: Apart from masters Lawson is the best rider in the league imo. Harris for me and I think Pickering will soon be up there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, GiveusaB said: Harris for me and I think Pickering will soon be up there! See how he does at Glasgow first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essex Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Ghosty said: Lawson certainly is nigh unbeatable in the Championship, so why doesn't his average reflect this? Could it be a team building average! Yes along with his availability to guest on a lower average,seen him shut the throttle off near the finish line when he's leading his team mate home coming second still I believe gets paid a win very clever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 In the early 2000’s Poole we’re regularly getting bigger crowds than AFC Bournemouth. Yesterday, AFC Bournemouth spent over £80,000,000 (80 Million pounds) in the winter transfer window. How things have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa-colette Posted February 1, 2023 Report Share Posted February 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: In the early 2000’s Poole we’re regularly getting bigger crowds than AFC Bournemouth. Yesterday, AFC Bournemouth spent over £80,000,000 (80 Million pounds) in the winter transfer window. How things have changed. Were Bournemouth in league one in that time though, so not surprising! Early 2000s we were prob getting 3-4k esp in summer hols. I remember 2k was considered a really low crowd!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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