keepturningleft Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Shocking sour grapes from Messrs Ellis and Stead. Bad decisions, good decisions, justice, injustice, good luck, bad luck, all balance themselves out over a period of time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Garry1603 said: Some great drama with plenty for the fans to discuss, speedway at it's best. When speedway gets it right it's still a fantastic spectacle. The celebrations afterwards by fans, riders and management showed how much it meant to them. I much prefer a great team match than individual meetings. As far as the matches go, yes there were controversial incidents and none of the referee's decisions were easy, but let's concentrate on the positives. Well done the Aces after 29 long years and Sheffield will be contenders again very soon, I'm sure. Fully agree. Both meetings were a great watch on the TV, full of drama, thrills and spills etc. Can't understand what Shovlar was on about re the muted atmosphere - couldn't he hear the BV fans? As I've said before, I much prefer to watch team racing as opposed to individual events. The British Premier Leauge has been so much more enjoyable this season when compared to the rather mundane GP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, kelvinht said: In my opinion Tobias was already past Kurtz. Kurtz was leaning all over Tobias down the back straight forcing his line into bend 3 and then almost gambled the ref would rule in his favour as he was always going to end in a heap. The camera angle from behind suggests Kurtz should have gone not Tobias, and that's what I'd have probably gone with. 3 tough calls by the ref last night, first one right I think, but not so sure on the other two! But that's speedway. Where does this 'block' move come from that Louis keeps banging on about. In the old days it would have been seen as a dirty move by Kurtz to stick his front wheel at Holder, his intention pretty clear and dangerous. Btw, I'm neutral in all this cos I'm a Stars fan and jealous that we weren't in the playoffs again this year....!! I agree regarding Kurtz.Pity the Ref doesn’t get to see race footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Fromafar said: I agree regarding Kurtz.Pity the Ref doesn’t get to see race footage. The referee does what all the replays, that’s why there was delays making decisions as kept watching the replays! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spittaler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Fromafar said: I agree regarding Kurtz.Pity the Ref doesn’t get to see race footage. Going by comments from presenters Referee does get benefit of replays from angles as they said she was looking at it closely before any decision? I may be wrong though For what worth thought all three were correct but all on opinions. Who would be a Ref in any sport? You can please some all of time and all some of time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spittaler Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tinker said: Fully agree. Both meetings were a great watch on the TV, full of drama, thrills and spills etc. Can't understand what Shovlar was on about re the muted atmosphere - couldn't he hear the BV fans? As I've said before, I much prefer to watch team racing as opposed to individual events. The British Premier Leauge has been so much more enjoyable this season when compared to the rather mundane GP's. Couldnt agree more on GP meetings Generally boring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Spittaler said: Going by comments from presenters Referee does get benefit of replays from angles as they said she was looking at it closely before any decision? I may be wrong though For what worth thought all three were correct but all on opinions. Who would be a Ref in any sport? You can please some all of time and all some of time! Thanks,was under the impression that they weren’t allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 What were the attendances for both meetings? Certainly a lot more Mancs at Sheffield than Tigers fans at BV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 BELLE VUE ARE CHAMPIONS, belle Vue are winners. but also SPEEDWAY WAS THE WINNER this week 29 years of hurt ended, had frame, thrills, spills, best atmosphere from aces fans than anywhere. And if you don’t believe me, check my socials. hard luck Sheffield, makes 2 teams to make a final. some good news aces fans. Captain Kurtz is here to stay. He wants more trophies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, auntie doris said: What were the attendances for both meetings? Certainly a lot more Mancs at Sheffield than Tigers fans at BV. Both had great crowds. Only about 30 Sheffield fans at belle Vue. must have been at least 500 of us at Sheffield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Atmosphere looked good on social media. What a shame Eurosport seem incapable of getting that across. Sheffield were unlucky with Adam's exclusion - which was a bizarre decision. Should have either been all four back or Brennan excluded. Tobi's exclusion was a bit more 50/50, but I also thought Sheffield were unlucky there as it looked like Kurtz leant onto his back wheel. Sheffield learned the same lesson as Swindon did in 2007. You can't just put together the best side and become league champions as a result. You need to suffer first. Makes it all the better when you finally do it, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABS Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Watched the first leg at BV but didn't attend last night. Instead of moaning about the Referee, perhaps Stead should be asking why the track curator decided not to rip up the gates again. Just like with the borefest a week earlier against Wolves, any rider off gate three was severely handicapped, so much so that you were treated to three man races, in effect. To be honest, I go to the NSS every week and the racing is usually very good, but from what I've seen from Sheffield this season, I seriously wouldn't bother crossing the road for what passes as racing there. It actually makes Monmore Green look like a Speedway riders paradise. Pleased to see our young riders Tom and Norick perform so well at the death. For me, the turning point in Tom's season was when he went up to number two, with Matej at number one. He seemed to grow in confidence and learned a lot about what lines to take around the NSS from the Master. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve55 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Rob B said: The referee does what all the replays, that’s why there was delays making decisions as kept watching the replays! She needs to go to Specsavers then!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, iainb said: What I thought was missing was a rendition of Sweet Caroline after heat 14 with the fans waving their phones around with the lights on... that would have been so good, so good, so good! Don’t think we would do that if we had just lost a play off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, keepturningleft said: Shocking sour grapes from Messrs Ellis and Stead. Bad decisions, good decisions, justice, injustice, good luck, bad luck, all balance themselves out over a period of time. They didn't seem to balance out in the play off final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Rob B said: The referee does what all the replays, that’s why there was delays making decisions as kept watching the replays! Shouldn't there be two referees for a final and the second one could look at all the angles like var in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovalman Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) Used to love the Grand Finals at Swindon when hundreds of away fans turned up, Coventry and Wolves 2007/9. Very few for later finals though. Edited October 14, 2022 by auntie doris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 The dead gate 3 was perhaps the most contentious issue for me, it was hysterically bad , riders going into the bend 3-4 bike lengths detached Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 27 minutes ago, ABS said: Watched the first leg at BV but didn't attend last night. Instead of moaning about the Referee, perhaps Stead should be asking why the track curator decided not to rip up the gates again. Just like with the borefest a week earlier against Wolves, any rider off gate three was severely handicapped, so much so that you were treated to three man races, in effect. To be honest, I go to the NSS every week and the racing is usually very good, but from what I've seen from Sheffield this season, I seriously wouldn't bother crossing the road for what passes as racing there. It actually makes Monmore Green look like a Speedway riders paradise. Pleased to see our young riders Tom and Norick perform so well at the death. For me, the turning point in Tom's season was when he went up to number two, with Matej at number one. He seemed to grow in confidence and learned a lot about what lines to take around the NSS from the Master. I thought the racing was good last night and much better than Monmore has been this season. Brennan was good last night but was poor at Poole in the playoff semi. I also thought the racing in the first leg was good although some races were spread out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: The dead gate 3 was perhaps the most contentious issue for me, it was hysterically bad , riders going into the bend 3-4 bike lengths detached You would have thought that they would have tried to change that for this meeting, commentators were saying gate 3 is notoriously bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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