PhilTheAce Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Weren't that many in 2015 though tbf! Easy to go 20 odd miles! Brady makes me laugh as always! Best fans, so why is he leaving? All sorted. Now. Back at belle Vue to win more titles. His words 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: That’s undoubtedly took some of the shine of the final but the Belle Vue fans and Management clearly don’t care as it was always all about winning and nothing else mattered That's quite correct. It's the manner of winning that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, 4thbender said: I'm not concerned with the fact that Sheffield lost - I'm used to that. But the fact remains that whilst Jack's low score had a part to play in the overall outcome, so did Lambert's 25 points over two legs. The difference is Jack had a right to be there and Lambert didn't. Supported Sheffield for 56 years and you're not concerned they lost because you're used to it? Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, Bojangles said: Supported Sheffield for 56 years and you're not concerned they lost because you're used to it? Weird. Winning and losing are both aspects one becomes accustomed to over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Well done and congratulations to Belle Vue, however I can't help but fell that the referee was instrumental in the outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojangles Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, 4thbender said: Winning and losing are both aspects one becomes accustomed to over time. So as you're used to losing, you weren't bothered you lost arguably the biggest match in your history? What a fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: All sorted. Now. Back at belle Vue to win more titles. His words Makes sense! The Leicester thing didn't make sense to me apart from cutting the time travelling back or to Middlo's. I can't remember if he did Poland and UK or Sweden and UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, wealdstone said: Well done and congratulations to Belle Vue, however I can't help but fell that the referee was instrumental in the outcome. Sheffield's momentum was killed when Tobi got excluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Just now, Bojangles said: So as you're used to losing, you weren't bothered you lost arguably the biggest match in your history? What a fan! Big matches come and go and, should I live long enough, I expect I'll see more in the future. For me the Tigers' victory at Ipswich in 2017 to win the Championship was a great highlight, as was the winning of the knock-out cup in 1974. Both occasions were the result of long campaigns where good and bad fortunes were overcome along the way. The one feature that stands out is that on neither occasion did we use "ringers" to score our points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Sheffield's momentum was killed when Tobi got excluded. That was the oddest decision I ever remember. Kurtz was awarded 3 points whilst laid on his back on the fourth bend, whilst three riders had passed the finishing line ahead of him. If the referee reckoned Tobi had cheated and deserved exclusion, surely the race should either have a) been re-run with three riders, or b) awarded to Belle Vue as a 3 - 2 victory. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems odd to base the score on the assumption that Kurtz would have won had he not fallen off. Passing the finishing line first is usually the criterion for the awarding of 3 points. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Makes sense! The Leicester thing didn't make sense to me apart from cutting the time travelling back or to Middlo's. I can't remember if he did Poland and UK or Sweden and UK. Kurtz? 16 matches for Dackarna in Bauhaus Elitserien 18 matches for Łódź in eWinner 1 Liga. Plus whatever he did in UK, was his schedule this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: They didn't seem to balance out in the play off final. Your right, terrible bad luck for the Aces, losing 2 riders on Monday saw us finish with 6 to 8 point lead less than it would of benn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, lisa-colette said: Weren't that many in 2015 though tbf! Easy to go 20 odd miles! Brady makes me laugh as always! Best fans, so why is he leaving? He's not, see Phil's post earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, Bojangles said: So as you're used to losing, you weren't bothered you lost arguably the biggest match in your history? What a fan! For someone who is used to being a loser, and isn't bothered about being a loser, he hasn't half done some crying on this forum since they lost. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotteringAround Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERACE said: He's not, see Phil's post earlier. If he isn't leaving, how are they going to fit in Bewley, Lambert, Fricke, Zagar and Kurtz next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: If he isn't leaving, how are they going to fit in Bewley, Lambert, Fricke, Zagar and Kurtz next year? New rules just for the Champions I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: If he isn't leaving, how are they going to fit in Bewley, Lambert, Fricke, Zagar and Kurtz next year? The lawyers are working on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Congratulations to Belle Vue. It's been sad to see so many moaning about the ref, she was consistent. The incidents in heat one and two, were more or less in the same place, I would have prefered all four back in both, however she choose to exclude, fair enough. She got Heat 11 right too, tough but correct. It was ungracious to see some at Sheffield in their disappointment, lash out at the official. The issue that should be considered for the future was, the one fron the first leg. Wright was injured and BV had to go with only one rider. Surely a team down to five riders should be able to bring in a replacement on a lower average? The five one Sheffield got in Heat 14 brought it closer than it would have been. If a team went down to five in the first few heats, it would ruin it as a match with only three riders in a race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, 4thbender said: Mikebv has put his finger on it there! As a died-in-the-wool Tigers fan for 56 years, I'm actually glad to see Belle Vue win the title, for the simple reason that it highlights the sheer hypocrisy and corruption of the ruling authorities in allowing a rider who has shunned British racing for three years in pursuit of personal treasure to suddenly turn up for three matches in the colours of a team for which he has no past or present connection and have the audacity to collect a champion's medal on the rostrum. A "ringer" by any definition. Surely the authorities will now be shamed into ensuring no such aberration will ever occur in the future. As for the real championship, whichever team wins the Sheffield v Ipswich tie two weeks' time can hold its heads high and rightly claim to be the season's champions - an accolade won over the course of twenty matches home and away and without recourse to underhand and devious chicanery, the stench of which will always hang around this alleged Belle Vue "victory". Cough. Cough.. 3 changes when only allowed 2... Cough. Cough... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Col said: Kurtz? 16 matches for Dackarna in Bauhaus Elitserien 18 matches for Łódź in eWinner 1 Liga. Plus whatever he did in UK, was his schedule this year. Ah okay. So he wasn't top league Poland? I didn't realise that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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