Trees Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: From my limited viewing of speedway in the past few weeks - nothing I have seen will tempt me back to trackside to watch riders endlessly gardening at every start ….lack of any “racing” just very fast “riding”. One sided meeting pa with the result never in doubt despite the constant “bigging it up” by the TV commentators. FTG features in all but a few heats. Not for me anymore. LOL ..... bet you won't be able to resist having a look, it's the BIG final after all, if only to see if Robert Lambert can score another maximum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: From my limited viewing of speedway in the past few weeks - nothing I have seen will tempt me back to trackside to watch riders endlessly gardening at every start ….lack of any “racing” just very fast “riding”. One sided meeting pa with the result never in doubt despite the constant “bigging it up” by the TV commentators. FTG features in all but a few heats. Not for me anymore. Sorry has speedway in any thou regards.. mucking around at the tapes was much worst in the old days just as many one sided meetings and the racing was just the same.. racing at Belle Vue has product better than we have ever seen in the speedway...Speedway is poor in the uk for many reasons but don't understand what your going on about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTT Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 Final over tonight imo, BV will take a 16 point lead at worst to Sheffield. If BV don't suffer mechanical issues then I could see them winning by 20+ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Col said: I think Belle Vue need to hit 55 tonight, which they are capable of doing. You do? I'm not sure I agree. Blodorn can be tremendous at the NSS but has shown no liking of Owlerton in three visits, that said he rode well in his final two rides at Foxhall in the semi final so could discover his form there. Etheridge tends to get by with one heat win at home and a couple of third places again showed no points scoring form at Owlerton this season. Sedgmen has struggled at NSS and has been a surprising choice as guest for teams on a few occasions, but as both have finished their Championship seasons how do the two reserve Aussies compare: Justin Sedgmen 7.39 Jye Etheridge 6.71 Sedgmen has been a heat leader (often the only one) for the Brummies, Etheridge started at reserve for the Bandits. Mountain showed good form in the British Final. Personally I think the Aces have the edge in the top three but the Tigers are stronger in the bottom 4. Yes Mountain rode well in the British Final but rode in a league meeting and scored 1 point. Hope Mountain produces his British Final performance or this will be all over tonight. Sedgeman is no better at Belle Vue either. Edited October 10, 2022 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Yes Mountain rode well in the British Final but then rode in a league meeting and scored 1 point. He's also ad a 5+1 and a 2+1 at BV this year plus a paid 15 for Lynn in 2021. He can be decent round there and personally I think he's better than Etheridge and will outscore him over two legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moranboys Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 We really need the middle order guys to be on it from the start.if we can make some decent starts I can see maybe an eight point deficit with all to ride for at owlerton.come on the Tigers..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: From my limited viewing of speedway in the past few weeks - nothing I have seen will tempt me back to trackside to watch riders endlessly gardening at every start ….lack of any “racing” just very fast “riding”. One sided meeting pa with the result never in doubt despite the constant “bigging it up” by the TV commentators. FTG features in all but a few heats. Not for me anymore. Why even bother with the forum then? Just walk sway and find anther interest, you couldnt pay me to go to cricket but i wouldnt dream of commenting on their forums 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Moranboys said: We really need the middle order guys to be on it from the start.if we can make some decent starts I can see maybe an eight point deficit with all to ride for at owlerton.come on the Tigers..!! Kyle Howarth is the key man for me. Need him to be more hit than miss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Why even bother with the forum then? Just walk sway and find anther interest, you couldnt pay me to go to cricket but i wouldnt dream of commenting on their forums Well said. Only comes on here to moan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlieboy Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 For Sheffield to have any chance of winning the final all 7 need to ride like last Thursday. We made a few gates but when we didn’t we were very aggressive and each rider made at least one pass Last time we were at Belle Vue when we made gates we got swallowed up usually round 2 nd bend. Their lads were well dialled in while we struggled for the set up. We can’t afford to let that happen or it will be game over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bob at herne bay Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, orion said: Sorry has speedway in any thou regards.. mucking around at the tapes was much worst in the old days just as many one sided meetings and the racing was just the same.. racing at Belle Vue has product better than we have ever seen in the speedway...Speedway is poor in the uk for many reasons but don't understand what your going on about Orion - gardening at the starts is now out of control. From NDL juniors to SGP sooperstars they get off their bikes digging ruts , then filling them in, then completely missing the start. Complete waste of time. 2 completely one sided p off semi finals - the last one at Sheffield typified the modern style gate and go speedway on big tracks. Racing at Belle Vue Hyde Road was good …. The new incarnation sees the action over by lap one and the 4 riders getting further and further apart. They might go faster than they used to … but entertainment is poor. Too many delays, time wasting and not a lot of action. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, old bob at herne bay said: From my limited viewing of speedway in the past few weeks - nothing I have seen will tempt me back to trackside to watch riders endlessly gardening at every start ….lack of any “racing” just very fast “riding”. One sided meeting pa with the result never in doubt despite the constant “bigging it up” by the TV commentators. FTG features in all but a few heats. Not for me anymore. I get some of the points but .. FTG has always been around since I started 50 odd years ago with PC at Hyde Rd (when he trapped), often a half straight ahead of a couple second strings and 2 point reserves... You still invariably got that "moment" though which took your breath away when he failed to make a start.. And tonight you will hopefully get at least one "moment" the same.. No out of their depth reserves and second strings are bona fide 2nd Division HL's nowadays.. Personally for me, the racing has never been better at tracks like the NSS, Peterborough, Redcar and Glasgow, and the overall standard from No1 to No7 has never been so high.. Tune in tonight Bob and I am sure you wont be disappointed, I am there with my lad, and to be honest the result is secondary to the racing for me.. And the NSS seldom let's you down on that score... Fair weather... Big Crowd.. Two World Class GP stars.. And a support cast made up of seasoned internationals and very decent riders... What's not to like? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, spin king said: Kyle Howarth is the key man for me. Need him to be more hit than miss. Exactly the same could be said about Howarth's Aces counterparts Wright & Brennan. I think Ellis is the key man for Sheffield tonight, can he take points off Zagar & Kurtz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: He's also ad a 5+1 and a 2+1 at BV this year plus a paid 15 for Lynn in 2021. He can be decent round there and personally I think he's better than Etheridge and will outscore him over two legs. Etheridge can be a bit unpredictable although I think mark Lemon likes him but sometimes puts too much faith in him, like at the showground last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: From my limited viewing of speedway in the past few weeks - nothing I have seen will tempt me back to trackside to watch riders endlessly gardening at every start ….lack of any “racing” just very fast “riding”. One sided meeting pa with the result never in doubt despite the constant “bigging it up” by the TV commentators. FTG features in all but a few heats. Not for me anymore. Get yourself to the NSS if you can sometime to see good racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, Col said: Exactly the same could be said about Howarth's Aces counterparts Wright & Brennan. I think Ellis is the key man for Sheffield tonight, can he take points off Zagar & Kurtz? I picked Kyle out due to his scores for Sheffield and his British Final scores at Belle Vue Belle Vue 5 points from 5 rides 3 points from 4 rides 5 points from 4 rides British Final 10 points from 5 rides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Trees said: LOL ..... bet you won't be able to resist having a look, it's the BIG final after all, if only to see if Robert Lambert can score another maximum We said that before the Kings Lynn v Poole final but it was an excellent turnout and hope Ellis does better than he did that day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, mikebv said: I get some of the points but .. FTG has always been around since I started 50 odd years ago with PC at Hyde Rd (when he trapped), often a half straight ahead of a couple second strings and 2 point reserves... You still invariably got that "moment" though which took your breath away when he failed to make a start.. And tonight you will hopefully get at least one "moment" the same.. No out of their depth reserves and second strings are bona fide 2nd Division HL's nowadays.. Personally for me, the racing has never been better at tracks like the NSS, Peterborough, Redcar and Glasgow, and the overall standard from No1 to No7 has never been so high.. Tune in tonight Bob and I am sure you wont be disappointed, I am there with my lad, and to be honest the result is secondary to the racing for me.. And the NSS seldom let's you down on that score... Fair weather... Big Crowd.. Two World Class GP stars. <<<<< ****** And a support cast made up of seasoned internationals and very decent riders... What's not to like? * fairly sure there's THREE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SAINT Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, TTT said: Final over tonight imo, BV will take a 16 point lead at worst to Sheffield. If BV don't suffer mechanical issues then I could see them winning by 20+ i'm thinking 20 points too (and i'm a Tigers fan) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2022 Report Share Posted October 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, old bob at herne bay said: Orion - gardening at the starts is now out of control. From NDL juniors to SGP sooperstars they get off their bikes digging ruts , then filling them in, then completely missing the start. Complete waste of time. 2 completely one sided p off semi finals - the last one at Sheffield typified the modern style gate and go speedway on big tracks. Racing at Belle Vue Hyde Road was good …. The new incarnation sees the action over by lap one and the 4 riders getting further and further apart. They might go faster than they used to … but entertainment is poor. Too many delays, time wasting and not a lot of action. Have you seen Chris Harris, he can be quite entertaining! Shame he can't guest for someone tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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