mikebv Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 Circa 2/3rd tickets in the Grandstand sold... Behind the tapes the ones mainly left... Would imagine a "full house" would be a distinct possibility. . Have all the Sheffield fans attending booked their Uber? As it's the final they might need a seven seater... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: Legal, as was Heeps - see rule book. Have Belle Vue got one ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Just by reading many of the comments in this thread shows how and why this sport isn't ever taken seriously... Two teams have "cheated" by replacing riders.... One due to a long term injury to their No1 rider... And the other, due to wanting to replace an underperforming rider with someone they felt could improve their team.. Yet Both used the average system that the sport so slavishly follows, and both, according to the averages, brought in lower ranked riders than the ones they were replacing... Two clubs doing nothing other than what clubs would do in "proper team sports", in their respective circumstances... But no. In Speedway... That's "cheating"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 8 hours ago, orion said: Have Belle Vue got one ? ttp://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations You should have tried using them instead of getting your mate Russell to use his influence with his chums. I’ve said for years folk like that are killing the sport and in your case it’s unfortunately very very true. Having dodgy sorts involved in the sport is dangerous as you never know when they’ll turn and you end up losing everything. Very sad and all for a few cups that meant nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: ttp://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations You should have tried using them instead of getting your mate Russell to use his influence with his chums. I’ve said for years folk like that are killing the sport and in your case it’s unfortunately very very true. Having dodgy sorts involved in the sport is dangerous as you never know when they’ll turn and you end up losing everything. Very sad and all for a few cups that meant nowt. I think it is wrong to say it is all for a few cups that mean nowt. At the time it means everything, you have the lows so you can enjoy the highs. I am sure most Swindon fans enjoyed winning the trophies and now it is very sad and upsetting to lose another track, if you saw Lee Kilby on TV you could see the pain written all over his face. I hope Belle Vue fans enjoy their victory without any fears that their club could close at a time when so many clubs are under threat of closure or have already closed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: ttp://www.scbgb.co.uk/regulations You should have tried using them instead of getting your mate Russell to use his influence with his chums. I’ve said for years folk like that are killing the sport and in your case it’s unfortunately very very true. Having dodgy sorts involved in the sport is dangerous as you never know when they’ll turn and you end up losing everything. Very sad and all for a few cups that meant nowt. Not sure you got the hang of how links work let lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, orion said: Not sure you got the hang of how links work let lol... It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t have the intelligence to get to the rule book using the information provided let (sic). You’ve never read it before so why bother now. Probably didn’t feel the need with Terry about. Yuk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 13 hours ago, Chris116 said: This thread proves that, depending on how you read the rules, one or both of the teams may or may not have broken the rules. What is also clear is that the BSPL and SCB need to get the rules for 2023 looked at very carefully by a legal experts so that they are written with no loopholes and watertight so they do not allow dodgy goings on as we have seen in the past. If BSPL and SCB cannot manage that then they are not fit for purpose and a new independent governing body should take over. Whilst you have the overriding clause in the regulations which states The BSPL directors have the sole right to approve or not approve a declaration then it matters not a jot what’s in the rules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellevueace Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 2 hours ago, foreverblue said: I think it is wrong to say it is all for a few cups that mean nowt. At the time it means everything, you have the lows so you can enjoy the highs. I am sure most Swindon fans enjoyed winning the trophies and now it is very sad and upsetting to lose another track, if you saw Lee Kilby on TV you could see the pain written all over his face. I hope Belle Vue fans enjoy their victory without any fears that their club could close at a time when so many clubs are under threat of closure or have already closed. Sad whats happened at Swindon those clubs who have secure futures cannot exist if clubs all around them are closing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 31 minutes ago, bellevueace said: Sad whats happened at Swindon those clubs who have secure futures cannot exist if clubs all around them are closing. My own club is far from secure so I know that sinking feeling, hopefully we can survive another season or two but developers are always there ready to pounce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 43 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Whilst you have the overriding clause in the regulations which states The BSPL directors have the sole right to approve or not approve a declaration then it matters not a jot what’s in the rules. That is the first rule that MUST be removed from the rule book in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, ouch said: It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t have the intelligence to get to the rule book using the information provided let (sic). You’ve never read it before so why bother now. Probably didn’t feel the need with Terry about. Yuk! It doesn't take much intelligence to read the rules but would you care or make much effort to read them if your team wasn't involved plus the rules are pointless when they can be changed at a drop of a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyke Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said: Whilst you have the overriding clause in the regulations which states The BSPL directors have the sole right to approve or not approve a declaration then it matters not a jot what’s in the rules. Come the revolution this should be the 1st rule up against the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, bigcatdiary said: Whilst you have the overriding clause in the regulations which states The BSPL directors have the sole right to approve or not approve a declaration then it matters not a jot what’s in the rules. When you substitute BSPL directors with Bates, Godfrey, Ford jr & Louis it’s even more chilling. Add in Chapman (still very much a spectre hanging over the sport) and CVS from recent years it’s easy to see why the sport is dead. You reap what you sow. So sad. Even more of a concern is those named above will control all next years top flight - bar one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, ouch said: When you substitute BSPL directors with Bates, Godfrey, Ford jr & Louis it’s even more chilling. Add in Chapman (still very much a spectre hanging over the sport) and CVS from recent years it’s easy to see why the sport is dead. You reap what you sow. So sad. Even more of a concern is those named above will control all next years top flight - bar one. Edited October 10, 2022 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 7 hours ago, ouch said: It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t have the intelligence to get to the rule book using the information provided let (sic). You’ve never read it before so why bother now. Probably didn’t feel the need with Terry about. Yuk! If someone could understand how to use a link i might be able to . sadly it's unlikely to be you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, ouch said: Having dodgy sorts involved in the sport is dangerous Well, we've survived since 1928 with 'em involved!!! Edited October 9, 2022 by chunky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, orion said: If someone could understand how to use a link i might be able to . sadly it's unlikely to be you Try removing your mittens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazS Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 hoping brennen performs better tomorrow than he did this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 Even with Lambert, Belle Vue need to hit a 53-37 minimum. Anything less gives Sheffield something to chase hard. 17+ points will force Sheffield to ride a little more desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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