szkocjasid Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 hours ago, HGould said: I would point out that EVERY CLUB entered a Competition that clearly had a designated ONE OFF Final at Sheffield at the beginning of September. That Final would have been done and dusted ages ago and Winners known. Only when ONE Club moaned and whined that a One Off Final at that Venue was not fair, was the decision made to have 3 Home Legs. That decision was made only AFTER the 3 Finalists were known. That could be argued rendered the whole Competition null and void as the other 7 participating Clubs found the goalposts removed after the Event. There is a very simple solution. Go back to Plan A, which every Club agreed as the Format. A one Off Final. I'm sure that any number of PL or non participating CL Clubs could stage it quite easily. 6 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Yep I agree, the issues started when they went back on the agreed format, should have been a one of final at a neutral venue weeks ago. That said Glasgow withdrawing is not good at all. From memory I'm sure all 3 clubs were praising the decision to have a 3 legged final! So I find it odd that this change would have caused an issue. Not sure why the clubs would agree to this if it would cause fixture issues! I do feel rules should bit be changed mid-season however & should have stuck with a one-off final! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Cast1rn said: The format for the finals also hasn’t been announced. If as Rumoured that it would be 5 or 6 man teams, what riders would be dropped for the final? The competition was run on 7 man teams built to a 42 points, now there’s a potential that two clubs could drop their number 7’s who have struggled to score both home and away and Glasgow would lose Connor Bailey. This would leave Poole and Leicester with their 3 heat leaders and Glasgow running at a reduced strength team before the tapes have even gone up. 4 hours ago, Skidder1 said: So Glasgow haven't also got 3 heat leaders??? They would simply go with their usual 6 ie without Ulrich who has retired. 3 hours ago, Cast1rn said: Glasgow built on a strong reserve pairing with Connor and Danyon, Leicester and Poole built with three 8+ Point heat leaders. If it drops to a 6 man team Poole drop a rider who has scored 22 points home and away all season Glasgow drop a rider who’s scored 98 points home and away. While nothing was announced pre-season, the 3 team tournament has always been 6 rider teams (could always include a non riding number 7). So this can't be used as a reason for pulling it! So Poole would always have been favourites in a 6-a-side final! Not that there's anything wrong with that, a fit Edinburgh pairing would have been favourites for the pairs & when the 4TT was run, teams with strong top 4s would be likely to do well! I don't ever remember a team pulling out of the fours or pairs (unless through injuries)! Assuming Glasgow are allowed guests - no reason to pull out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: While nothing was announced pre-season, the 3 team tournament has always been 6 rider teams (could always include a non riding number 7). So this can't be used as a reason for pulling it! So Poole would always have been favourites in a 6-a-side final! Not that there's anything wrong with that, a fit Edinburgh pairing would have been favourites for the pairs & when the 4TT was run, teams with strong top 4s would be likely to do well! I don't ever remember a team pulling out of the fours or pairs (unless through injuries)! Assuming Glasgow are allowed guests - no reason to pull out! It's all only rumour at the moment. Nothing confirmed anywhere. Although Matt Ford in todays local Echo is still referring to 'the treble'!! Edited October 13, 2022 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Head Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Steve Worrall. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaizer Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Makes 7 weeks without a meeting all the more farcical. I'm not often critical of my promotion but this, if true, is very poor. Can ride 7 days a week if we wanted but couldn't find a date in this 7 weeks during the summer when weather was great? I get that now we've 5 riders and at least 2 are probably wanting away to warmer climate asap. But imo the issue is not agreeing a fixture during the summer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Head Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 So IF the Tigers have withdrawn, why not give the Jubilee title to the winners of the Leicester v Poole Championship decider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Dickie Head said: So IF the Tigers have withdrawn, why not give the Jubilee title to the winners of the Leicester v Poole Championship decider? Or offer their place in the final to the side who finished second in their qualifying group - if they want it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I am usually disappointed when a season draws too a close, this season there is no disappointment this tells a lot on how the season went especially the fixture planning which was not as good as farcical. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Gazc said: I am usually disappointed when a season draws too a close, this season there is no disappointment this tells a lot on how the season went especially the fixture planning which was not as good as farcical. Very disjointed season in Tigers case.7 week with no home meeting is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Steve Worrall. A good journo NEVER reveals their sources 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 I would think most riders are packing everything up for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, ray c said: I would think most riders are packing everything up for the season They all know the season ends at the end of October,surely the chance to earn some money for some should be welcomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 10:27 PM, Steve Shovlar said: Asked about this tonight. Glasgow have pulled out. Shouldn’t be allowed to imo but dates are Poole on the 26th and Leicester 29th. Really? Isn't there a chance Glasgow could get fined for pulling out of the competition? I had a feeling something like this was afoot at the last home meeting when the announcer was talking like the Poole meeting was the last race of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickinho Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 21 hours ago, Noelinho said: If Glasgow have pulled out, it is disappointing, but I understand it too. We’ve had nothing to watch since pretty much the start of August, who would bother to come out now for one last match on a cold, damp October night? Glasgow’s season has been effectively over for two months. I can’t even remember the last home fixture before the playoff semi final, it’s that long ago. Was it Birmingham, maybe? Birmingham?? Try Ellesmere Port! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirao Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Nickinho said: Really? Isn't there a chance Glasgow could get fined for pulling out of the competition? I had a feeling something like this was afoot at the last home meeting when the announcer was talking like the Poole meeting was the last race of the season. How do you think the owners will react if Glasgow get fined? That could be a can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 31 minutes ago, Beirao said: How do you think the owners will react if Glasgow get fined? That could be a can of worms. Don’t think they would want to jeopardise Allied sponsorship which a fine most certainly would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, Gazc said: Don’t think they would want to jeopardise Allied sponsorship which a fine most certainly would. It’s not very Professional to pull out IMO.It damages their reputation which is a shame given the effort they have put into the sport since they took over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 The Poole v Leicester meeting on the 26th should guarantee a very big crowd if Pirates win the Playoff Final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Fromafar said: It’s not very Professional to pull out IMO.It damages their reputation which is a shame given the effort they have put into the sport since they took over. Maybe not but nobody knows the reasoning behind pulling out. To be honest it will be kept in house and rightly so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Gazc said: Maybe not but nobody knows the reasoning behind pulling out. To be honest it will be kept in house and rightly so. 1 hour ago, Gazc said: Maybe not but nobody knows the reasoning behind pulling out. To be honest it will be kept in house and rightly so. Have they Officially pulled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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