TINYS Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: Global warming is a thing. Love this global warming weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, PhilTheAce said: Can’t see the limit being 42.5. I think they will stick with 39 with 0 rising star meaning diluting the product again. That’s what they love to do 39 and trying to fit Doyle in will be fun,,, Basically Doyle 3 second strings and 3 reserves,,, oh hang,, same as this season then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Col said: I'm sure Sheffield & Ipswich are delighted. 7 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: I’m sure they can work around any clashes to which there me won’t be many of Clubs couldn't organise the league cup final till October this year, despite the qualifiers being known since May! How are they gonna cope with postponements due to Extraliga matches on a Thursday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) I don't know if the rule change will do much good, riders like Woffinden, Pedersen, Madsen, Zmarzlik, Dudek, Janowski, Lindgren, Vaculik etc chose not to ride in GB long before the Extraliga+1 rule was made. Not worth giving up priority on Thursday's for the sake of 2 top riders (Bewley & Lambert) potentially coming back! Edited October 5, 2022 by szkocjasid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szkocjasid Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Can’t see the limit being 42.5. I think they will stick with 39 with 0 rising star meaning diluting the product again. That’s what they love to do Don't agree that's diluting the product, teams should average out at 42, so 39 + RS is no weaker than this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: Global warming is a thing. Climate change is coming. Global warming is part of that. Climate change is less predictable intense weather. More serious storms are part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: PZM and BSPL are to agree a deal that Poland have priority on Thursdays but riders can ride in 2 other leagues instead of 1..... What is the source of this information? I reckon GB speedway would be a big loser on this, so why agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 59 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: I don't know if the rule change will do much good, riders like Woffinden, Pedersen, Madsen, Zmarzlik, Dudek, Janowski, Lindgren, Vaculik etc chose not to ride in GB long before the Extraliga+1 rule was made. Not worth giving up priority on Thursday's for the sake of 2 top riders (Bewley & Lambert) potentially coming back! The riders you mention, very unlikely... but the level below them - Wozniak, Pawlicki possibly Thomsen & Michelsen alongside Lambert, Bewley, Fricke, Holder & Doyle make the league more interesting. The gap between Prem & Champ would be defined. Not sure Lindgren & Vaculik are as unreachable for Prem clubs as you'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petecc Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 It may start as a polish rain off night until they decide they can just use it for live TV matches every week. I wouldn't trust them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: I don't know if the rule change will do much good, riders like Woffinden, Pedersen, Madsen, Zmarzlik, Dudek, Janowski, Lindgren, Vaculik etc chose not to ride in GB long before the Extraliga+1 rule was made. Not worth giving up priority on Thursday's for the sake of 2 top riders (Bewley & Lambert) potentially coming back! One of the above listed that isn’t the brits could be making his debut in UK next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 8 hours ago, szkocjasid said: Don't agree that's diluting the product, teams should average out at 42, so 39 + RS is no weaker than this year? It was 39 this year wasn’t it??? And that was for 6 riders because the RS didn’t count. Next year it could be 39 for 7 riders. That’s diluting it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTheAce Posted October 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 7 hours ago, RS50 said: What is the source of this information? I reckon GB speedway would be a big loser on this, so why agree? It’s in the polish press 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 38 minutes ago, PhilTheAce said: It’s in the polish press Although the Polish speedway press does tend to run with things that don't meet conventional journalistic standards, so hopefully it's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Sounds similar to the situation earlier this year, regarding Bewley going to Belle Vue, which our promoters rejected. Therefore why would they want it now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris116 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 Is this a case of Poland giving us a choice of us agreeing to Thursday not being protected in exchange for riders being allowed to race in more leagues OR Poland running on a Thursday when it is supposed to be protected? Also, should the BSPL agree to the move what is to say that Polish teams won't quietly tell all their riders that racing for more teams will result in the rider being dropped by their Polish team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Chris116 said: Is this a case of Poland giving us a choice of us agreeing to Thursday not being protected in exchange for riders being allowed to race in more leagues OR Poland running on a Thursday when it is supposed to be protected? Also, should the BSPL agree to the move what is to say that Polish teams won't quietly tell all their riders that racing for more teams will result in the rider being dropped by their Polish team? Because the Polish teams won’t do that - they don’t run squads. I can see however that Extraleague teams with a Friday fixture might not be too happy with riders riding GB the previous night and we might see some mystery injuries appearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 2 hours ago, RS50 said: Sounds similar to the situation earlier this year, regarding Bewley going to Belle Vue, which our promoters rejected. Therefore why would they want it now? All teams bar the Aces were settled back then and the BSPL/BSF cartel didn’t want Belle Vue being ahead of the game with Bewley in, so the stopped us. Double whammy for Dan as he’s denied riding here and fans berate him for not riding in the UK. It was during one of these spats that Dan let the cat out of the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 3 hours ago, PhilTheAce said: One of the above listed that isn’t the brits could be making his debut in UK next year So Dudek or Vaculik then, as the others wouldn't be making their debut?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 46 minutes ago, ouch said: All teams bar the Aces were settled back then and the BSPL/BSF cartel didn’t want Belle Vue being ahead of the game with Bewley in, so the stopped us. Double whammy for Dan as he’s denied riding here and fans berate him for not riding in the UK. It was during one of these spats that Dan let the cat out of the bag. Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me. Whatever you do, don't let facts spoil your post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Badge said: How do you know it won't be many?. It could be every week if they have a wet summer. Damn stupid if they agree to that If it does go ahead as outlined it will be interesting if they try to rearrange every rain off for a Thursday, (which I expect them to do) rather than any other day which may be available for the rescheduled fixture. I could even see them rearranging a rain off for a Thursday and having a practise on the following Sunday. Then the next year there will be a desire to remove the rain off only caveat, and gradually over a few years they'll acquire an extra day for full use. Sweden will capitulate as Thursdays were in the past really Alvenskan league days, it's only recently they've used a few for the top league. I think we all know where this is heading. If the BSPL vote to agree to it, they better up the points limit and budgets, to get GP riders here, because they will have given away a race day in exchange for an increase in the availability of top riders, so if they drop the points limit and build on the cheap, what's the point? So that's what some of them will no doubt vote for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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